From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6452 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2021 20:24:15 -0000 Received: from 1ess.inri.net (216.126.196.35) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Aug 2021 20:24:15 -0000 Received: from mail-pl1-f178.google.com ([209.85.214.178]) by 1ess; Sun Aug 15 02:47:53 -0400 2021 Received: by mail-pl1-f178.google.com with SMTP id d17so17116035plr.12 for <9front@9front.org>; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 23:47:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=oLItTQZ1L2kQr3+72l9v5J5Sw+zGBpmxeCKx2sQrbhY=; b=Hmj4UaPDXO4xQnlJrNXFzCuRMZKRVvrgzd02hA0t9UhXBp/xnJm8efUIxIDQqLO4Ic cZGvRWryWn4i7UYjNyFRbzZPoiKV+xLGB1JA1V5i+S76ECBF9a+6hMM6wzPnd/IrWgMB xBbSbA3rEWNq9Q+QYJA5HfYFUUfVS75zdUH+y/DYw4hFycygCLZ8rSz/MVsKgeL7AgPJ jgc8DWr0vAOGvxBL1nV1Ebb39J50WmMWgiaJc8Ox6OQSsuMLHw1Ru6qOHsswk0/ycray RR4o14UUTZswCVLdSpozqOjK6QiLDVNUQbeoE3e9osAI0uywgPYNnBuyTqgpamCXdO0I yN9g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=oLItTQZ1L2kQr3+72l9v5J5Sw+zGBpmxeCKx2sQrbhY=; b=C8848D7jCGw9rWYs34j/1j4SklSWZl08xkoQocq2FjfBcW+kkX/eauroT7moTaRNFZ zGXtDRt8ra5tydr1WNoEBTTGAvDyK3ntFdNy2/b6NFwwsrb2/aSww9AWkG9mQRBfMu/m eLX4JAjwynilOoREX6MQL380xPyXvlA90qtT3kZRDcbgCN/IpYOkuXkOhKup3/X7BWIG dT7iMiZNUQ8Td8FcRCJ7w2CblLOSCY4VJyPsmiAeUbHKPN9v4MBIG9Ab4rp5neO7MpeP wr7b9MqA1SUDxB1X8E5X14AXObSnWJcB0j8HtzBhcR0Cw4tG0+KVyiv/XjydWLntMwbH Amwg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533DVkmc5OgK9mi7UfvTqM5zfF60ZzlcqTJHrPhEppB9O2Qs3JFo M1CI5DFM6Ph0MwySr+i+pUjenkMZbUko/zpKJvWTkPHB X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyfpH7Hvusg67ipO2YjgdqAP6yYVsutB0luU7z5QlnKm2Hj8CUNFFvDuKJ7Mw1+IpDosWepk4Rpan48h3FxKGk= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:4498:: with SMTP id t24mr10569163pjg.235.1629010064542; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 23:47:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:3210:b029:36:6c8c:f6d1 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 23:47:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <35D30064F0C69F74F6CF5AF1C2CAC860@smtp.pobox.com> References: <35D30064F0C69F74F6CF5AF1C2CAC860@smtp.pobox.com> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 08:47:44 +0200 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: extended responsive callback blockchain WEB2.0 component DOM framework Subject: Re: [9front] PATCH: click-to-focus in fgui Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk On 8/14/21, unobe@cpan.org wrote: > Quoth hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>: >> > So far you're free to treat that as whatever you want. As you seem to >> > hate the discussion and maybe the participants of it >> >> thanks for making it easy for me so I know i can stop reading already >> after the second sentence. >> both statements are untrue. > > I'm not understanding your line of reasoning, hiro: his first > statement is untrue? You (hiro) are not free to treat that (i.e., his > previous e-mail's content) as whatever you want (e.g., some sort of > trolling)? > > For the second sentence, you only quoted the premise: Eckard said you > "seem"--it's his perspective. If his perspective is not true, that's > not the same as his statement re: his perspective not being true.[1] > You can just say that his perspective (i.e, "hiro hate[s] the > discussion and maybe the participants of it") isn't true, or just > ignore the first paragraph entirely. If the premise is untrue, then > his conclusion ("it's probably of much more value if you sit down and > write a Plan9 bible with all se do's and dont's well ordered by > precedence") does not necessarily follow. After the first paragraph, > the rest of his e-mail is mainly focused on the issue. He is open to > discussion. He ends his e-mail with: "Up to now, I didn't find a > strong counterargument against a different focus policy, but am still > open to know that." > > [1] The difference between "She seems to be angry" and she actually > being angry. > > wrong. disclaimer: i'm not an expert in hiro studies.