From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 21754 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2022 01:17:30 -0000 Received: from 4ess.inri.net (216.126.196.42) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 13 Feb 2022 01:17:30 -0000 Received: from mail-lf1-f51.google.com ([209.85.167.51]) by 4ess; Sat Feb 12 20:09:31 -0500 2022 Received: by mail-lf1-f51.google.com with SMTP id bu29so18517546lfb.0 for <9front@9front.org>; Sat, 12 Feb 2022 17:09:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=byR/ZwV58xE3qEcm+h2mUNZnFGEFq//Et5yS4D0UTDI=; b=hP0wilZNG1R69GeX5MQGwff0odDmK5c7TorW1VMhwso1IeTCLsyoyjquocq0IjjiaT pSnMDys+u+/oXXKLSq9h/Gr2QtZiQBth9BK6fM5lh3JzfyfMFsqzjGnu7nRZe/pqy7pZ rKx3M8NeQqoBkoKDHu8T1Hvq8eTpP2zqR6BnPfiehY1j4hS7KasSec4LokPGS257G8ru MHN7LdKMVgCihmOvdl7TQYq6GTYw6rGwKLvdydoontqyhQL9HcRjhoN3JW742YXaNNDZ /dYfGpyJAmwTB/fVHn6nZ05Jpbbq9iEy8eszmIw7MKEkAaSlOSz4XFAHn/I/6aoKDGJJ snVA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=byR/ZwV58xE3qEcm+h2mUNZnFGEFq//Et5yS4D0UTDI=; b=LkF4u9dADBnz1LLp8xewaXEGco3imU71w6GoymjwpX8yssOXSkGPWnX/JAYfpEDs+t 6D/t02KZGW3vfNfrClm+fYc23axyQW9WVWRkccrXDS6m2DpFk3K+kZcLaOouybYlXMpK xzAglBR+FeKTn4yJ+Xkr7JWAxdJci/luXIf92rln5QpoTixDwpjjwC0oamrBggU5C80p Di0Kwm0mNbtzB28KfPuW0zKA01SrplAPe10n9UgpXcsd8UsrXZvqrVCjYoRVhJksDC9K LP0+25Y7QjrpsFOsx21ljanzBgy74W3qdd88+QHbt9GwF34U+0RYRqoyk58kbyda18S1 IPeQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532wQ0dsIPKzVV7p4X/g4K87vtED7vu+8pDxzd9+vaRkuc5r1+6u 3Kig7EE5miFWBfieTIUaj5VadkJD7TdbeEn27buzXW2+Csc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzZIKKFT5zDBHC49qDzH4s6P/WE1VBEz9gfH2/U4ehwFiEQRc+s/hFqGMEDkz7D1jzy3qKoaMY8EaN6imCsErA= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:cc0b:: with SMTP id q11mr5602371edt.8.1644712819366; Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:40:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a54:26cb:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:40:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6403CC303B834A70F53A520558BED0EB@gmail.com> References: <6403CC303B834A70F53A520558BED0EB@gmail.com> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 01:40:18 +0100 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: patented configuration realtime singleton NoSQL-oriented optimizer Subject: Re: [9front] pi4 wifi and audio Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk well, pi4 on 9front can be used as an efficient terminal. just avoid the wifi, usb-c, audio, bluetooth :D as a music player it's also good enough, with a high quality usb soundcard. rpi4 finally has real 1gbit ethernet. makes it the first viable pi. of course use cases are extremely limited, but they exist. On 2/12/22, thinktankworkspaces@gmail.com wrote: > Quoth Thaddeus Woskowiak : >> I don't think Miller's wifi does WPA or any auth. Though I've not ran >> Miller's pi image in a long time. Miller's wifi driver is also different >> from 9 front's WiFi driver so it's not a simple port. >> >> For good pi audio I use a Dayton USB DAC which outputs pretty clean >> audio. >> >> Unfortunately the pi uses a really crummy SoC as it started life as an >> EoL'd chip for set-top boxes. That's why it does weird crap like boot >> from >> the GPU and lacked proper Ethernet for ages. Even Pi founder Ebbon Upton >> was unable to grasp why people wanted proper Ethernet as the pi was only >> ever meant for teaching. It's an educational toy built from a chip >> scrounged from the cut out bin but everyone seems to want to ignore that >> part. You get what you pay for. >> >> I tend to prefer cheap embedded PC's off eBay or itx Celeron SoC boards >> if >> I need a small low power system. >> >> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022, 1:11 PM wrote: >> >> > So 9front on pi4 seems pretty stable. But has anyone got audio and wifi >> > working. I recall >> > reading some place that pi hardware developers kind of deviated from >> > convention so its a bit >> > tricky to get some of that stuff working. Perhaps I might also be >> > asking >> > for some sort of >> > guide to read on how to build or deal with making drivers in 9front and >> > some troubleshooting >> > steps to follow. Ponies and Unicorns I want those also, so yea. >> > >> > > Interesting. Seems like a lot of wasted effort. Unless as you say using pi > as a teaching > experiement. So what about hackboard2. Kind of the same specs but Intel. I'm > wondering if > it will just boot 9front and work without too much fuss. >