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Subject: Re: [9front] Mouse clipping patch
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so again, what is the problem with just using ESC (hold mode) for this?

On 7/13/21, Jos=C3=A9 Miguel S=C3=A1nchez Garc=C3=ADa <soy.jmi2k@gmail.com>=
 wrote:
> The concept of focus itself is a rio invention, so it's natural that
> the way of giving it up is also rio-specific.
>
> Again: mouse comes with two sets of inputs: the pointer location and
> the buttons. The pointer location can decide the receiver end of the
> mouse events (well, not quite in the case of rio, because its focus
> doesn't follow the mouse, but you get the idea). On the other hand,
> keyboard can't "point" to where the input should be processed, so the
> concept of a "current window" fills that hole. It's natural that, if
> we have invented a synthetic way of "pointing to" a window with the
> keyboard (focus), we should also have a way of "pointing out" of a
> window with the keyboard (a "uncurrent" key).
>
> Maybe I'm overthinking it, but that's how I feel about it. Needless to
> say, feel free to offer any other alternative to escape the mouse
> clip. Feedback is very welcome :)
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 7:32 PM Stuart Morrow <morrow.stuart@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> > Innermost-focused rio gets the control, with a key for "giving up" the
>> > focus (going then a "level" up in the stack) is what i propose.
>>
>> But it's so _untransparent_
>