From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5064 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2021 23:38:32 -0000 Received: from 1ess.inri.net (216.126.196.35) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 25 Jun 2021 23:38:32 -0000 Received: from mail-pg1-f178.google.com ([209.85.215.178]) by 1ess; Fri Jun 25 14:39:27 -0400 2021 Received: by mail-pg1-f178.google.com with SMTP id y14so8559219pgs.12 for <9front@9front.org>; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 11:39:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XSpOjp6fYmv/hnV8lfz5jgmukgEH8j8q8i24KljMTRw=; b=IEWL0iEKD1na5MeX1BUdIHeLSbDo0nVWYHlJUWsRlftR2bWNC5yMVQN9n+6QX2hcA/ Z0NXu2cgymzhqyWz7GjKsOrkkU56gTIasfd1CpVOogGCJsk70jxi1mhiNbGKAOM4jjs3 R3RqEEONnHMs8RdrTFa5bAK1osxMMVU5/YugA5ZIg83G+S6Pjah6KOMphTPumx+peq0R SGMao3bKMKT22tW0G4/rk3tw04RPHQE8oJSWkfxyDZEDFtxuDG3n+/wPNB1zU4aC5Rrk rDApfUWMogpA8PnFxIJe+bSG4nJ0KFHoqClSr8MVPMOarhc+c7NJJxYVpFG8vjoxhtap L/KQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XSpOjp6fYmv/hnV8lfz5jgmukgEH8j8q8i24KljMTRw=; b=j/1giV8tXg/GwTYMd33e2hBDScVCbqi3nKFSt+yaCCq8SfqLvWr99fyVBs1FQh928U q9E9iDJZGy63zCswxuZ8vQR7/OuQsHQbhWGMrG+Z/UuBEGtMNBQYsu7xKhyBvkIB5aWr 0jEvU5b2QXaKMwq2C/M+pgzWFPeS1nBVU63imEC+ef2YZuqwvS/WxGiK5Mj/yEMpf8Wl cFpu2Lh3d/l2bNa9KH8+NvPy+EkrthxW1wO5vPXMRH333WCdmcJlJiPGr4iFEbpE7RYh ZiDITLBYAEuauokY3kIQ7vKEKK4jraZA2ebFftPbelLFvPpAYPes3RLMcqPPCisw+wm+ M2tA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533h+HHfGD38TZAgXAW5RP3gvBOJ+Snsa1CHEdDJPJ+v89xQ+5hm j4yFlgBjiE1v69HsjEq2rgXHOwjcNof/Ud6B7sU+ugws X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyLPm0SJCDqTM37UJT4nhF8kCww1KcjQ+HXKa7U4h87q8ZQgxtVbQLkZZXUKbunIrMaqhvx0TMmc6irKpcT594= X-Received: by 2002:a63:2011:: with SMTP id g17mr10882473pgg.195.1624646362580; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 11:39:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:a002:b029:1e:dcb9:6f96 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 11:39:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <95397E6884143EA24CF6EC0563A09FE4@gmail.com> References: <2B7AD169-C4B6-4A37-B276-ED18B03DB7B2@stanleylieber.com> <95397E6884143EA24CF6EC0563A09FE4@gmail.com> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 20:39:21 +0200 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: metadata metadata software Subject: Re: [9front] Two errors in fqa Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk The main problem is if there has to be as much documentation as there is that might suggest the system is already too complex :D more seriously: I'm happy that kvik's wiki got stolen and put inside the tree of the 9front.org website, at least everything is more in one place than before (even though it's still just a website). I tend to complain about everything sl does, mainly bec. he is involved in doing many things. maybe this will help revise my former half-assed comments: 1) shitty best-effort documentation is better than no documentation. 2) maybe some person is running straight from a new 9front iso and has no web or internet access, this should be rewarded not penalized, so ... (also, copy&paste is easier when the docs are on the same machine) 3) the .iso should contain all possible best and worst effort documentation that has been gathered so far 4) the 9front/cat-v websites should also include all the documentation (e.g. that's why man pages are accessible via the web, too), bec. some people have 2 computers, and one of them can be used to read the documentation on the website the rest, like how easy it is to find the wiki on the website, shouldn't matter much in comparison, as it being web means it should show up on google anyway, as even the guy in the youtube video found out. and maybe if morale improves and people like me also add some effort to improve upon the content already there, the low quality or duplicated scattered information will get more readable and more efficient and shorter, too. so far i revoked all attempts made by myself to improve upon documentation as i wasn't happy with the inefficiency of my english that i came up with. On 6/25/21, Sigrid Solveig Hafl=C3=ADnud=C3=B3ttir wr= ote: > Quoth Stanley Lieber : >> On June 24, 2021 6:26:05 PM EDT, Stuart Morrow >> wrote: >> >This seems as good a place as any to point out that people apparently >> >find the FQA hard to find...: https://youtu.be/rTQe3W37RBA?t=3D1276 >> > >> >I think what has happened is: it used to be clear that 'FQA' was the >> >FAQ, but now that we have the wiki on the front page *and the link is >> >called 'docs'*, people are going to the wiki thinking it's the >> >documentation, and since you don't keep looking for something once >> >you've already found it (or think you have), they never find the >> >actual documentation. >> > >> >> maybe the docs wiki could link more prominently to the fqa. >> >> sl > > I added a note at the top of index to point out FQA is the way to go. > >