From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17450 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2022 08:56:37 -0000 Received: from 9front.inri.net (168.235.81.73) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Sep 2022 08:56:37 -0000 Received: from mail-vs1-f45.google.com ([209.85.217.45]) by 9front; Thu Sep 29 04:53:27 -0400 2022 Received: by mail-vs1-f45.google.com with SMTP id 63so814604vse.2 for <9front@9front.org>; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 01:53:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=O7f0s7C8SMepsKWLVA01nq9lYYZrOcVQRnySVQI6/1w=; b=EjUMQxjlZW25j58UfDR3SyUkoLRRyFghM+F5Y0OM2Ug/ak6psIttd2C3krVD0tdoRB 8L+Jgu6bcvfrwpvKVlKZo7BMRysrRchFvX3KjuSXuZi1312xWXt7xRnuXGZb8LY1FSff cgf6oQdWbs31egpsN79I5HTI0ZmSl1qt2VYJOvhJ5xWBPv9nDnYiu07J8vPMKJNaQwg4 KlqH9rPjruYubAff9slPv8cZToE5HJrbPsKPG+/ggBbMoXmTQANhexGWzGolEoIFz6Q9 Ax7Xah4orQ57uqXf92oEByvGLMcbX/tETdCF+UTWR973ujSO5+3WbOBsSfZgXgSGvn/J Tk6A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=O7f0s7C8SMepsKWLVA01nq9lYYZrOcVQRnySVQI6/1w=; b=B6YL5z1idhZdNBkrlNlUFXiPu4BGHiNAog5pSZJxIxWYfzMCyTY7KJt89SZZyIBPah Occc5NBGGuXvyk4wtnIUiLzwookU/R48ZTpnSwPOsdn4wcTB39elFQz6ULJi7tC5+/5N g5rgDqc8uTnrpFiqOvajoBnK6QbhpAClqyb0J7hcPLSfbHh7bE5h45lOo7f3LlXt2NKN Yreg8fyZ5EKqLvdN6bYTPSNiBy5a0g0tK4MuTNgBJA4YnPaw9Tjos4x8vU3RMGoF1akf 03VfZdAP3Z+kPt7IOeFdMJaPXwQ1FSgrD1BSxFE+dmWkQ3tYWVpONKarmmHmg8cOGfyQ lpqA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf0I9KVyX7yqVUepBrD7pRfU1cIxobRSCC1RDoaFGp9B/JawQ7nP dGczkgyX7bOqbeSqagJh9U4uuRlZqle6t6ihfJ2ADcA5 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM537PrNydJpzcwH2NEobI95kPWQ2CFKuvGvU6XqLJZSA8X/UOCfAic7XFDC+PV7UP1E+Aj4444BRm6JbcfvSAI= X-Received: by 2002:a67:e3ce:0:b0:3a4:9869:8fda with SMTP id k14-20020a67e3ce000000b003a498698fdamr715092vsm.75.1664441603103; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 01:53:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:1ec6:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 01:53:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 10:53:22 +0200 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: overflow-preventing shared realtime-java blockchain shader Subject: Re: [9front] obsolete cryptographic algorithms Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk > the belief here is that they're never used. that's the thing about old protocols, it doesn't matter whether you want them not to be used, some shitty gear might come with them anyway. what we try to provide here is called interoperability. unlike linux, programs are limited to safer algorithms by default, so it looks unused. the balance to make is between maintainability and interoperability. removing something is more work than not removing something.