From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <9front-bounces@9front.inri.net> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from 9front.inri.net (9front.inri.net [168.235.81.73]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A61927933 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2024 13:55:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-oi1-f180.google.com ([209.85.167.180]) by 9front; Mon Aug 5 07:52:05 -0400 2024 Received: by mail-oi1-f180.google.com with SMTP id 5614622812f47-3db1d48083dso958619b6e.3 for <9front@9front.org>; Mon, 05 Aug 2024 04:52:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1722858724; x=1723463524; darn=9front.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=lQho0PFJhp+wwAiy01MAYNQxeeZDIUqA/AMZ7kGBCnU=; b=BStx++77EQOdrKiv+7WcEDwfhCL5SkGaMJbf+6JP0xSANkkvp4YZWAEW0N5FlaDcf0 W+6+zYVkMvJX1X3EeiTYK7GrF4fg8dRHA08j1Kal30Bo2ZLhnrx7Gdd3aVMUMC+7pjCJ dGREzLDi6MNnIvNfWahXy1Au8oNko31a7ma8nLCVshl/qouL+zRPNzV6e/MNPvlYQZSz bCQalXLySQksFBAWIGWUzjcUr/NVRd+NigvkLQO4SCd7g138ApFkwPx7v7fU6yxg/z8i /aeUjVWZr6JOkf/GZqlIXahuDA6tw3+oaHLxnkl9hWsPF0uBQqlwuq3XoReOqhMegj4n kqtA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1722858724; x=1723463524; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=lQho0PFJhp+wwAiy01MAYNQxeeZDIUqA/AMZ7kGBCnU=; b=cjMyshCCeaBjoqYa/gM904C1eTTGn7PP0Lq+wr7LEOQGriSyIKJliW3qPkqBu57wY0 lPN3PFDJjXWo0uARIipay/QA5DPsZyQ1zJjyCHyokfef/zs09Lu+iDaMY62z/ZykQ02W 5jSsY2TT6LNa+ocwjB6p1amz0vh1hR6bjg8sCBa8dvJCX3C0sPyqt20zW7Xz9CH0yvsq /YNrNdnoRvpXH1ZgdmPtk6tOJ44iTn75L2pMdU37OX04jgNsvy8EQ8c97qx9zetSdkTk mNp8Y4mqSidJfjEnMmRy1KEvQYiWap8gvJj2dK61Y8roFJnff1KYKCLO8F9WKQerNSOW GKOQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyMb+1gbwPLVFH+dwTNdSQ1eLdme5FFdOd2KKq7GruMCfiqeLD+ zPyPhOW1l5lFmb4GzczA2wDgnxD8gyZ4+QGZADRpHxCVCwdoqvVzuEXG4dGX08IJmIAPkw87JU2 W8x6xVrBsffxVWR8KTXnMaRnRd7kKwrK+Kvg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHbI0g91mptQY6n6tk3lqmnyZdHKfdW/6GdlcU+PQIkyeQmlgIOOlk2a1QIYIdUBAcXaGEsl/6v7lJshfz1Q1M= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:56ab:b0:260:23bb:1087 with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-26891732bc5mr6307587fac.0.1722858724020; Mon, 05 Aug 2024 04:52:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7003a121-ae98-4a24-b0dc-778c3b086310@sirjofri.de> In-Reply-To: From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 13:51:52 +0200 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: responsive lifecycle content-driven-oriented table-scale locator Subject: Re: [9front] Thoughts on Wayland? Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk it makes zero sense to decode video remotely and then send it in raw video over the network link over devdraw rpcs. you'd have to integrate image and video compression into devdraw. and enable such a new video-streaming feature. maybe call it /dev/video we already have compression in theory, but it's lz77 and not very efficient in comparison with lossy image and video codecs On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 10:58=E2=80=AFAM Noam Preil wro= te: > > Of course, for e.g. treason, it's trickier, since frame buffers are > decoded on the CPU side, and the entire frame buffer gets uploaded to > devdraw. > > Best case, with gpufs, would be tossing the encoded data instead - > which _would_ be a major bandwidth reduction. That might actually be > sufficient for treason over 9p? >