From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31077 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2021 19:13:31 -0000 Received: from 1ess.inri.net (216.126.196.35) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Aug 2021 19:13:31 -0000 Received: from mail-pl1-f171.google.com ([209.85.214.171]) by 1ess; Sun Aug 15 15:04:00 -0400 2021 Received: by mail-pl1-f171.google.com with SMTP id c4so2196070plh.7 for <9front@9front.org>; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 12:03:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=76/965K2Dk23UP7TjbezbMlF5hiEV1RcEDGszHmmFzM=; b=YuB3GF8G7PK2wZDTjaLmZAyN947gIUqDZjI7lBkDCeQIW0Hzru+tdWfvl1bnHg7xwV hUarpyuHZ4bdscSju/BNjaSSC4p/ZwPtfN2T3uJcYlLXT8G4PPxYeRtWAp0c5gw0zp7+ swW8JI5aQaUf33LkqsFf5sH6u+X0AdsQQ2BjHnCjXZjPuT+TdhnJ3PCfnqC+HsDMgRfv D3wVFRCJfu88w5v7vqHWzUH8yVPn70m3JsRfhexL75q5Fcv3sLP7SDWOk2DH4TbvBBgh jZCTGpKwJ7JKiuBzojIkXA2yLSTJXMI2HSQxs0iKCc5RxQTgb9oDcLCX9L77Y+BmroAh LAsQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=76/965K2Dk23UP7TjbezbMlF5hiEV1RcEDGszHmmFzM=; b=m6s+O9VW15bLRljRTW9OlxtzzvwaUu/TDfoDdSP26rqZpDHGSKb20lzJt2N8PPShgv ZLsKAzZDLPaVosUHy0VnQskAWZ/R4qLn88quetLmd8CHTM4/yIhQicybeFd/kOSM4dmJ J0QQqi3HnXcCUim/3aGWMW02++enKLMBay1iDPM0ihPS1jh1wo5z/7P6zSAQBR6+32sP FYi830tFF3Pu0eTle/Lwbe4Q7LjQ/GEC2JunNs/Ik7ZN+x1tTDbxFHmOKmF0oSeIOPSl cmU+eoqM5L14/OGWFM9x6aq+wZ0z5E+jMsabRhbmOsVjx3iZdvjX4bKLA6r8Zw9esRUv 2t6A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532rM6kvgZrAJFV8SJTyUonFePVKexWrPynQ1doB/Ibl351Q3qK4 ynKGGPXfYXSGgaPhMcFknTOM9mbkR1dXrRUi0fQx/4xl X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwrfOLSf3YnZFXTY6QWDsFAwrvan46uovfOBoj2C31fQBOvdlLkr9AmjfMCN3CZ0LIpK5Bcyp7/aDT9SXYmFNI= X-Received: by 2002:a63:4b60:: with SMTP id k32mr12430124pgl.198.1629054231505; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 12:03:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:3210:b029:36:6c8c:f6d1 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 12:03:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20210814122014.621634c6@gmx.de> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:03:50 +0200 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: stable module AJAX over ACPI just-in-time self-signing interface Subject: Re: [9front] PATCH: click-to-focus in fgui Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk Kvik, with more documentation about our religion won't it become too hard for the zealous batch of our new users to break those same strict rules? I highly approve the urge of learning to be an idiot. "matters trivial and complex" I think there is just one trivial matter here, a choice between 2 or 3 options: either you use click to focus, or not. You might claim there's a third choice, to use both. I pointed out that this is inconsistent. Maybe you have a complex reason why it is not? Looking from the other direction: Is there anybody who disagrees that consistency is more important than which of the 2 options are selected? I might have been quick to assume no. Sorry if my opinion wasn't clear all along. Thanks for your patience. On 8/15/21, kvik@a-b.xyz wrote: > Quoth Eckard Brauer : >> If the topic is that dogmatically overloaded, it _needs_ to be >> documented in somewhere strictly before all user guides and the like. > > It is somewhat of a pattern in this community to assume that everyone > is on the same page for a choice of matters trivial and complex. You > are supposed to pick up on this by either being unlucky enough to have > similar prior experiences as "us" and can read between the lines very > well, or will learn from hiro that you're an idiot and are better off > installing Linux for not having the community insight accumulated over > the years. > > Documentation explaining broad goals and reasoning behind them would > be helpful for the community, and not just newcomers or people who > don't religiously follow #cat-v. But writing and maintaining such > documentation and often times even following your own advice is much > harder than blasting people. > >