From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>
To: 9front@9front.org
Subject: Re: [9front] Enabling a service
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 21:46:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFSF3XPSSfi7-0FTwrhLzbQgRD=VN0_j7r-d3=Rqz_N5JaeT9A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <959A32F8-1D62-4FEE-8E33-E46AFAA7FB15@quintile.net>
> its not that modern latency is so high
it is though, at least in my experience. horrible DSL connections with
time interleaving error correction mechanisms, multiple hops of
wireless protocols with by design high collision rates, brute-force
randomized modulation with resulting packet loss, high interference,
cross-talk, multiple layers of unsynchronised retransmission
mechanisms to work around all those issues, optimizations for
high-throughput, unflexible minimum packet sizes with outbound buffers
causing transmission delays (again for throughput optimization),
optimizations to reduce packet rates (packet coalescing),
buffer-bloat, horrible routing policies, lawful interception resulting
in everything being routed through a central point that seemed
convenient to the NSA.
it was not like this when i was still on dial-up.
i see more and more places that have perfect end-user experience to
consume netflix, youtube and advertisement, but never try to have a
simple voip call over that line, it just doesn't work. packet loss,
super high multi-seconds delays, huge jitter...
the internet was an error.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-08 19:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-06 11:32 Rocky Hotas
2024-05-06 11:58 ` Alex Musolino
2024-05-06 12:43 ` ori
2024-05-06 15:16 ` Scott Flowers
2024-05-06 15:37 ` sirjofri
2024-05-06 16:32 ` Stanley Lieber
2024-05-06 22:18 ` Rocky Hotas
2024-05-06 22:59 ` ori
2024-05-06 23:00 ` ori
2024-05-07 8:22 ` Rocky Hotas
2024-05-07 8:29 ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
2024-05-07 9:03 ` Rocky Hotas
2024-05-07 9:14 ` sirjofri
2024-05-07 21:11 ` Shawn Rutledge
2024-05-07 21:35 ` Kurt H Maier
2024-05-07 21:45 ` sirjofri
2024-05-07 21:54 ` sl
2024-05-07 21:58 ` sl
2024-05-07 23:15 ` Lennart Jablonka
2024-05-07 23:16 ` Shawn Rutledge
2024-05-07 23:45 ` Shawn Rutledge
2024-05-08 0:34 ` Kurt H Maier
2024-05-08 0:35 ` sl
2024-05-08 1:05 ` Jacob Moody
2024-05-08 1:24 ` sl
2024-05-08 7:22 ` hiro
2024-05-08 14:04 ` Stanley Lieber
2024-05-08 12:08 ` Stuart Morrow
2024-05-08 16:37 ` Brian Stuart
2024-05-08 20:16 ` hiro
2024-05-08 21:26 ` Stuart Morrow
2024-05-08 21:17 ` Disconnection-tolerant / distributed filesystems (was Re: [9front] Enabling a service) Shawn Rutledge
2024-05-08 14:25 ` [9front] Enabling a service Jacob Moody
2024-05-08 3:41 ` Ori Bernstein
2024-05-08 4:09 ` sl
2024-05-08 8:39 ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
2024-05-08 14:17 ` Jacob Moody
2024-05-08 15:49 ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
2024-05-08 16:10 ` Jacob Moody
2024-05-08 16:33 ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
2024-05-08 17:27 ` Jacob Moody
2024-05-08 18:00 ` Steve Simon
2024-05-08 19:46 ` hiro [this message]
2024-05-08 19:46 ` Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
2024-05-08 20:34 ` tlaronde
2024-05-08 14:57 ` Lucas Francesco
2024-05-08 15:10 ` an2qzavok
2024-05-08 2:11 ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
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