From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-ej1-f45.google.com ([209.85.218.45]) by ewsd; Wed Aug 19 22:15:13 EDT 2020 Received: by mail-ej1-f45.google.com with SMTP id m22so747262eje.10 for <9front@9front.org>; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 19:15:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9DMowpyVegkSwRwwpS8h5dRMko88/VYEOq2MAzJhrEI=; b=vfOveAP7WTIqqzYwlLRb78tW00NjjRoSIG2MWO2HplGe16zcCethTGVzMMCZolvoEb HlTzKlGfk3pbKm6UgTTcIn/g3dwI20G5yKqEokamTfKCUpD1hpTexuXVpuCWldJSRK7C KJGgkDeDYkjJ4MPkFkhoWMcL24hDMTfbtF8JqWF/1VxdIzziqMVwZcRA7Lk1LAMscYE4 WvTlK5uuerjiiFNnU5fj6yOJKT/o1lTz4FHQPeE1lvseBZotRy5kfEn6g6luqcMo4+Pz 5U99IRKgk/GwMEkKIq5MaTzCm1OkaiYizO6s4GOR/kVCwci5slz11GuNxIEM2F/LezFn wQlA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=9DMowpyVegkSwRwwpS8h5dRMko88/VYEOq2MAzJhrEI=; b=FICaCtF2bxUlEw6NJRDNBPBt5FOR3BK2kmkgLh80S6V7qUR+Jxx0Y78uayKyeZqKtS VkmPKBPPesbCahdel74SEnA2tvwnI7fnfoRuWK8lWG86fvprKnGKiwkzLN+HVv8UyFVF 2ixS/sdpqm6X9E0M65O1OHRxP3Db1IK4+J80v+eBMzi41GMg8VNWjlf5MGPBJQuBPunw fLsFMb72p22sHhCVaLxY1BiVbWOgietpgUFQfRHRLVyICj+j0PjIhLwHnNW0HwE9j27j qMCR3csaZe3tK0Egjt71DqnYeZxnYOhEkRz9rCWeS4PMxl7RIx09SK9+coH281/Lys5b +YoQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531KnDUUsz94lBP6hyf1ilvmU9+oMzxhg9L1vKisVB1/vB4Igkrm JQ4OQEoHS2Sv1U5zaQzZkvM3yggFyGEMvAgBr8/7MEQFyPA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxtMbVSv2XmB8zR/rLyX2tuQmNZGJ7u3D9ACIA01k3FGtfrhvAFnOw/7g5rAcGnvpFeXg7HuDZb5n9tW7itIwM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:4ec6:: with SMTP id i6mr1159107ejv.358.1597889697152; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 19:14:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a17:906:6403:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 19:14:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20200818234033.GE25798@wopr> <158A09494BC07582889006A200849F02@ewsd.inri.net> <10315D51-B164-414D-AEB8-0AD57CCE5EE4@stanleylieber.com> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 04:14:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9front] RFC: add a downloads.md page To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: mobile immutable storage-scale realtime solution the way it is right now it emphasizes there's something special about our version of dd (linking to it is already too much detail). this doesn't help explain *why* it would be possible to just dd a .iso to a disk and have it be bootable without extra instructions. for example somebody might wonder if they have to set their bios up in a particular ISO on disk way. the idea that you can just dd the ISO and there's magically already a MBR is non-obvious but easily understandable by dropping the unique word that explains the hack "isohybrid". most people, even the ones who will never google this term will still be helped bec. they will at least know there's a dedicated mechanism that makes this possible. i hope this adds some info being phrased slightly differently and obviously longer On 8/20/20, Stanley Lieber wrote: > On August 19, 2020 7:12:59 PM EDT, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote: >>> i don't have any problem adding the word, but this is a thin argument >> >>clarity is often subtle, so perhaps a thin argument should be enough. >>otoh what's your argument to omit the mention? it's not like i went >>into some distracting details... > > i don't have an argument against it, hiro. you seem to need to see it > mentioned, and i have no reason to refuse you. but this was framed as if > omitting it was a problem, so i was asking why it was a problem. i'm trying > to follow your chain of logic so i understand it clearly. so far, we have: > "it's subtle." my point was that i doubt the information is critical. we > already say it works. if it doesn't work, knowing the magic word isn't going > to make it work. i've typed a long paragraph here to answer your question as > comprehensively as i can. > > i think we should also still provide a fuller explanation in the fqa section > about bootable media. > > sl >