From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-io0-f179.google.com ([209.85.223.179]) by ur; Wed Feb 10 16:22:15 EST 2016 Received: by mail-io0-f179.google.com with SMTP id 9so35524976iom.1 for <9front@9front.org>; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 13:22:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WStFeXBxWT2VpVPQmCXXoFUWEG9X+evaBHflhnMsNtE=; b=GZPCA7n1zlMSnuZjL6xIWQjtIBxXDTg+/DiYWqp2YxK7EwdMH+3vZOk43vSF4ExWx9 Og/mjdIzqGl+PVtrRKTKO3oqCY2vB0NfzYMnbrdAAuxB0czgsMzSyuAqKiwTHWJw5Gir 3NCc7Isq5JRFEtIhwSsTm81vfHbWdXczB/6RvA/UG4XAlnssadBXKCm/rA5TuKf2pRoU A3FAP816C6rEnabkZdSQZ6A80aaVRYr9tRVqnK2Z0Q9dMjJs3yX1CqdCqX99aH/YUoS9 2xqtZGNmuV2x/1GQvfF8vnW9oVMeea4JQzOGizfyH1mm6wfiEZfeUWEa9V5cGX7aMzwH rW/g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WStFeXBxWT2VpVPQmCXXoFUWEG9X+evaBHflhnMsNtE=; b=N+okqKMtucFUqyMICn8xnKbaYHORwghZXyafEf+lMlz7by921tmipUntPXvhFKqfR1 AJrubYflAqOLDXozni+Vk/8SIiEaj1a9fMwZcQgltr7xOalBwxk9TwsdsHkockZWvrq7 PpO1uKqnfYU3tqDHNx0goVPCtUhSiuPPXemIpWLBq1rdDjHg0UznE6Lvk5G8mZB3qPpg 08gS6FdYW5NucKuDNpSJpn+4KFejb+dIPxI1I4AF9Z7bx0sJUiDiSvqEGr+U3ynJVcUS tBI8XiWVUD/1SLNjFqr2uA9Oy9FUPdLOEKo9e1kJz/5ww6uC/9Cq51Hd87cfq845RXhs AH4g== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQmb1Nt/xrdioUbJboWLjuj9pxDWs8e6eIHu9ObgvCNFIJ1vSG5Uoxo6wSINcmrdgdRK2asp6EQeUVs9Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.7.147 with SMTP id g19mr40205176ioi.81.1455139334239; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 13:22:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.28.194 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 13:22:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20160210210803.GF1886@wopr.sciops.net> References: <1270b9585a3e327733049d87e8a08103@utsuho.znet> <50a1e90923c69e7c710766ab431c23a8@utsuho.znet> <1455120937435-0fca18ba-a33032ef-afc32a2e@stanleylieber.com> <68c8b9c471a28126f0ca4ddfb1f8f034@utsuho.znet> <5b700121babb21f8e721550f9815085f@ghost.attlocal.net> <20160210210803.GF1886@wopr.sciops.net> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 13:22:14 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9front] syslog(2) change From: "Devon H. O'Dell" To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: non-blocking information controller 2016-02-10 13:08 GMT-08:00 Kurt H Maier : > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Julius Schmidt wrote: >> I do much prefer something like yyyy-mm-dd... over burnzez' suggestion. > > If you're going to put timezones in the logfiles, you pretty much have > to use ISO-8601 date formats, and resolve to stick to numeric offsets. > As we're discovering on irc, trying to convert from abbreviations to > meaningul data is a fool's game. Switching to YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SS+HH:MM > is the only sane option. NB 8601 is specified as what is used in syslog format per 5424, not that anyone cares about RFCs. > khm