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Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk I think that's vmap in the Plan 9 kernel? I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. also, I am on the wrong mailing list. 9front is a fork of Plan 9 that is helping Plan 9 be an OS for computers but is still Plan 9 On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 1:13=E2=80=AFPM Willow Liquorice wrote: > > I presume the Wayland spec is talking about mmap(2) under Linux, which > allows you to treat a section of a file as you would program memory. > > On 04/08/2024 21:04, Eli Cohen wrote: > > also as far as mmap goes and what it even means, I have no idea, but a > > stupid younger version of me, who was myself at the time, managed to > > change this audio driver > > http://git.9front.org/plan9front/plan9front/HEAD/sys/src/9/pc/audioac97= .c/raw > > to support some mmap'ed I/O ac97 chips. the part where it says ismmio > > =3D 1, that's a flag that those chips are mmap'ed ac97 chips. but now > > I'm older and still honestly have no idea what you're talking about > > > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 12:59=E2=80=AFPM Eli Cohen = wrote: > >> > >> actually, drawing fast locally (and GPU stuff especially for > >> computation) is definitely a plan 9 concept too and is also being > >> worked on separately from wayland, and possibly on linux... so... plan > >> 9 is an OS for networks that may include plan 9 machines, linux > >> machines, iPhones, etc... it's a "unix made out of a network of > >> computers" not a "network made out of unix computers" > >> > >> On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 12:54=E2=80=AFPM Eli Cohen = wrote: > >>> > >>> always better to be a willow that bends than the strongest oak in a s= torm :) > >>> > >>> there's a common misconception that plan 9 is an OS for a computer. p= lan 9 is an OS for a network. drawing fast locally is not a plan 9 concept.= plan 9 is a 9P multiplexer. a wayland shim for linux/mac/bsd/etc that rend= ers to draw somewhere else on the network would be good and appreciated and= a relevant plan 9 concept and people are working on it... but for a fast l= ocal wayland implementation, that's what linux is, and linux can be and is = a part of plan 9 which is an OS for a network > >>> > >>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2024, 12:46=E2=80=AFPM Stuart Morrow wrote: > >>>> > >>>> How do you share memory over rcpu?