From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <9front-bounces@9front.inri.net> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from 9front.inri.net (9front.inri.net [168.235.81.73]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EB123CC5 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2024 22:00:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-pj1-f54.google.com ([209.85.216.54]) by 9front; Sun Aug 4 15:59:22 -0400 2024 Received: by mail-pj1-f54.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2cb5e0b020eso7481502a91.2 for <9front@9front.org>; Sun, 04 Aug 2024 12:59:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1722801561; x=1723406361; darn=9front.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=J4uHNqRuAvwD6yLmVY5usuH+MTezmPHoYDLI8nekx9c=; b=Mm52IEUPA9436516RKL1vVi3oskeiS8MLoYjNzARIzSCsr//K/4FKLu44V1Z78R5sr XP1r0DHgAL229VG7ZOVL7AJBg0Le/qNsmcYTgZgY7uShLAwLLQcxIHmNYzCkwL4nnK3m 2dhlKaQY5tStAB0KDm6vbNQJfZIhETGRWNWNtHVHb49xO53YhotAhKKk1GrHKefm8Yzs qAJaMYDehiBvMraRwIwKe6F/4ycPDib2uTyHMFhiRLJfriT4EbHPTP2JWDg6dS6EfELw 1ehqsTRQcLUdUV9fCAqVqyq3xZuCBvr7tPzSwvBumJ7DwWhrkCx51AxDtqGsaCM9XCfk vqaQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1722801561; x=1723406361; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=J4uHNqRuAvwD6yLmVY5usuH+MTezmPHoYDLI8nekx9c=; b=qQFG8Nkg1lVqriUwiC5okNnMkJkP9y96RT4HE2wYCt67CY8U+rRV0anyp0c3wZiDoB rWOdQeYdKSt3U1XfgjS2+UPhM5rUOz3blCI58fA9WkU7uwkW0fGqN+Th7MFnW1d/qDPT DYcAjLaI+iPaB4EZu6wD1nkN4/UPFfdbcZ1DbnQrBwyIQz+Ku8KaoPzt2Ec6QXqD/NPv 4Vh+QbhqLTrNS9VSzrwPxwLVKqpqgdUTpNta32YvrJSpwCACWO1PVSB5EZlRczKwPzj8 UCX5Do1d4p7Lyozh657Evayeedt7IBWfa9BceQXggj6kaA1dhaIM7nx57+tFxLJFAhu1 Uqmg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yyb0wLOxTQopNQ/wQwJPXvMIQHZgVayVYhEB0ULSLe1fsGaWfik UgArO3UlxLFxuV0+ig545lrJnCI/n+PH9KMgbIDubKQqTrPVKI1y2+biTa6G2soAJdZF2s78IlE bUWjgy0L6+3Eyo8MBiCn3xPzN+VUlnA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFcEO5IJlxFM9q5TD0NOF1q7vMxzaQIWummoswVHMPNcicLBAMn3K5Fe40sHlSHv/bhXgCc5CxUXqbM4VP7uCo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:3884:b0:2cb:50ff:732e with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2cff957fe03mr11145343a91.42.1722801560612; Sun, 04 Aug 2024 12:59:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Eli Cohen Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2024 12:59:09 -0700 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: webscale proven ACPI over SOAP service injection self-signing locator Subject: Re: [9front] Thoughts on Wayland? Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk actually, drawing fast locally (and GPU stuff especially for computation) is definitely a plan 9 concept too and is also being worked on separately from wayland, and possibly on linux... so... plan 9 is an OS for networks that may include plan 9 machines, linux machines, iPhones, etc... it's a "unix made out of a network of computers" not a "network made out of unix computers" On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 12:54=E2=80=AFPM Eli Cohen wrot= e: > > always better to be a willow that bends than the strongest oak in a storm= :) > > there's a common misconception that plan 9 is an OS for a computer. plan = 9 is an OS for a network. drawing fast locally is not a plan 9 concept. pla= n 9 is a 9P multiplexer. a wayland shim for linux/mac/bsd/etc that renders = to draw somewhere else on the network would be good and appreciated and a r= elevant plan 9 concept and people are working on it... but for a fast local= wayland implementation, that's what linux is, and linux can be and is a pa= rt of plan 9 which is an OS for a network > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2024, 12:46=E2=80=AFPM Stuart Morrow wrote: >> >> How do you share memory over rcpu?