From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <9front-bounces@9front.inri.net> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from 9front.inri.net (9front.inri.net [168.235.81.73]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B479721474 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2024 22:05:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-io1-f42.google.com ([209.85.166.42]) by 9front; Sun Aug 4 16:04:57 -0400 2024 Received: by mail-io1-f42.google.com with SMTP id ca18e2360f4ac-81fd1e05a5aso144483939f.0 for <9front@9front.org>; Sun, 04 Aug 2024 13:04:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1722801896; x=1723406696; darn=9front.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=6n0WAf5r9IIf3lCxx106/+vs/C0HqGTMrTUjFHtQzEw=; b=O0VcBKSnakeayqXaWBX+/5BFCDu74KjuWgAuvza31F3V7sijY+9TblJ9h+fGcxzZHr iNTHTh/viduJ/SYxrCV+0DQyIDUYdM04lGgEuf2sty/+amgGPZAXNH3xYK3fxz9KlK0c 8ko5CzcTRu5Kf81oID5dKSD8SueY2OmWqDvduIoaVXmLvZXYxADTLIuU6xE1Va2EiirK OY6wWH5bxhYez6GktY0ipLj699lxugcuODgS1qGhuS6VRrqJ2vkUPO3Pd+c2lyvS1sRA sRHIMBMh/yyN/xANGqKWmqSSIyw2Vq7wwIEuuMxk3uq7haWGw6rljGbrtjfwcC25RfHK f5Vw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1722801896; x=1723406696; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=6n0WAf5r9IIf3lCxx106/+vs/C0HqGTMrTUjFHtQzEw=; b=YNLiEU6u501rNJYBmXicD2G78NXjD0yDzDvQycEPZx1rhEW9aP2nBDP7iIBJoETmyc IEYwA05/KddIx09MUKqblzT7J09pcn1mC5DCj4FfG+Pu4khZfQX78eWN98OOLiWktGLb mlIvSd5RE+akVXQtLx6V2I460loYT4kwz5ruqFUiaWCYA69ZnPQhfs24GBjpt/8c0Vww ENhXOUffNx3hwJNeQq/6CRPx67ypNV0gJOkNZN0r2L+Ls5rY7Qi1SymlJy5Ia1b63UFe ZHJiDderZvjVQtxycUI8HujuBJIR29tw/Dyt+Cfm+tOOjhkbiHsEHeCSqg5HuMzk4JXN YsdA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxUPZCBb3AHg9L2FzeqEJxXCKtI3aNOBcARXXeWLLZE5g+rv47l dhTokri1+KnShvGk+Q4c05aozmCncZTj6XDXPXhimO+1LmHOlLQ/WxNQ22oB0AO9ncaBB4FDHWd 2+tuYeEt/1vKtJYsA/XCYbciFiQIGejo4 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGlZs/umG/Q+iBIx4Tb+lvphN6EPMMMcwQyAAoXbRZFEUUNhKW5qPYp9pzuCwjtUfCENz5cweqXIO6JOyawKFw= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:14c8:b0:805:2e94:f20c with SMTP id ca18e2360f4ac-81fd4350ad6mr1201963639f.1.1722801896141; Sun, 04 Aug 2024 13:04:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Eli Cohen Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2024 13:04:44 -0700 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: general-purpose content-driven realtime-java interface Subject: Re: [9front] Thoughts on Wayland? Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk also as far as mmap goes and what it even means, I have no idea, but a stupid younger version of me, who was myself at the time, managed to change this audio driver http://git.9front.org/plan9front/plan9front/HEAD/sys/src/9/pc/audioac97.c/r= aw to support some mmap'ed I/O ac97 chips. the part where it says ismmio =3D 1, that's a flag that those chips are mmap'ed ac97 chips. but now I'm older and still honestly have no idea what you're talking about On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 12:59=E2=80=AFPM Eli Cohen wrot= e: > > actually, drawing fast locally (and GPU stuff especially for > computation) is definitely a plan 9 concept too and is also being > worked on separately from wayland, and possibly on linux... so... plan > 9 is an OS for networks that may include plan 9 machines, linux > machines, iPhones, etc... it's a "unix made out of a network of > computers" not a "network made out of unix computers" > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 12:54=E2=80=AFPM Eli Cohen wr= ote: > > > > always better to be a willow that bends than the strongest oak in a sto= rm :) > > > > there's a common misconception that plan 9 is an OS for a computer. pla= n 9 is an OS for a network. drawing fast locally is not a plan 9 concept. p= lan 9 is a 9P multiplexer. a wayland shim for linux/mac/bsd/etc that render= s to draw somewhere else on the network would be good and appreciated and a= relevant plan 9 concept and people are working on it... but for a fast loc= al wayland implementation, that's what linux is, and linux can be and is a = part of plan 9 which is an OS for a network > > > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2024, 12:46=E2=80=AFPM Stuart Morrow wrote: > >> > >> How do you share memory over rcpu?