From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: by 10.236.110.2 with SMTP id t2cs107208yhg; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 17:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <9front+bncCOvY0cL5CxDGgoLyBBoEz-uCYw@googlegroups.com> Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of 9front+bncCOvY0cL5CxDGgoLyBBoEz-uCYw@googlegroups.com designates 10.229.51.73 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.229.51.73; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of 9front+bncCOvY0cL5CxDGgoLyBBoEz-uCYw@googlegroups.com designates 10.229.51.73 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=9front+bncCOvY0cL5CxDGgoLyBBoEz-uCYw@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=9front+bncCOvY0cL5CxDGgoLyBBoEz-uCYw@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.229.51.73]) by 10.229.51.73 with SMTP id c9mr2432347qcg.30.1312850251453 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:37:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=O7NUygYmSLiHT096KGhhGfZNwFZRfpbifLnepWJQzA8=; b=nzGYc96QSKv4fsNo3QYCr4F2qNTh/txu62HlKyD4fM46ObwX2Pzwj/V4+wTuqAlUnJ lRHVzic+hcsFa9pJQlfic9Nd/lSMBPZ8yI4X5GqQTq9mt+3LqPDxW2kKJVIpjYpRftWG 9R1ZOhoqlW620AdHPNMdRLBQreKDE2f/WXrKw= Received: by 10.229.51.73 with SMTP id c9mr730680qcg.30.1312850246374; Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:37:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: 9front@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.89.4 with SMTP id c4ls13145526qam.1.gmail; Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.201.133 with SMTP id fa5mr4453160qab.28.1312850245803; Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.201.133 with SMTP id fa5mr4453159qab.28.1312850245795; Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f52.google.com (mail-vw0-f52.google.com [209.85.212.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i2si3385755qcv.1.2011.08.08.17.37.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of karmaflux@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.52; Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16so4844349vws.11 for <9front@googlegroups.com>; Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:37:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.184.133 with SMTP id eu5mr6215151vdc.163.1312850245506; Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.118.136 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 17:37:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <81fd2f60-5548-4a8b-a3ef-dfc4799ff43d@h7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 20:37:25 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DDE - interesting or horrible? From: Kurt H Maier To: 9front@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: karmaflux@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of karmaflux@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=karmaflux@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: 9front@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list 9front@googlegroups.com; contact 9front+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: <9front.googlegroups.com> X-Google-Group-Id: 831096995978 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: 9front@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Thomas Pedersen wrote: > Is it that bad? Certainly we can do better than rewriting the same > drivers every time a new OS comes out, no? Considering that the drivers are the interface between the kernel and the hardware, no, we can't. New kernel, new drivers. That way you're not stuck with the bad decisions of your predecessors, and are free to make entirely new bad decisions. -- # Kurt H Maier