From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6093 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2022 21:08:16 -0000 Received: from 9front.inri.net (168.235.81.73) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 28 Nov 2022 21:08:16 -0000 Received: from mail-il1-f170.google.com ([209.85.166.170]) by 9front; Mon Nov 28 16:06:34 -0500 2022 Received: by mail-il1-f170.google.com with SMTP id z9so5662589ilu.10 for <9front@9front.org>; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 13:06:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=eAdAcM2SkPY59quMQ7+vjIam3GOSLvWU8EQsP1LXFGQ=; b=KPIM7re3DSDGShKfZht/05xbEE7jZtPzIim/UPIshylHUTc+b/7qS8oozEBjT+7L3t Sa17chCl5tY2RTBah/BmuCSyub92J2TXdmrwV04AT2G+GOLcDunEiu+REhiwV0sYAdqD bcNB9w/U3TafDCQ/vkWWobeKr1AC4ijQF0LhjO6Duurne3n3RuSQkeuPPhca3Hr6/oAS xw4iTroqHdY9Nq5pCKBDTVaF2HLql14+uW87oWcPW9JUA5MZzcJWUZAC36/5DtH8sn3T Bu9rSZp/1tgyYGRDyAsEE+Qz/mDEIwppHroUUK8BXCstz3gkjnVzE/fF23BfWw4MnRqe yiDw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=eAdAcM2SkPY59quMQ7+vjIam3GOSLvWU8EQsP1LXFGQ=; b=fAW/AiwYj96Q2OQRmKAmTnd+tsT89h7UEgwTXuzy9ui+WGLOcdd493uGobsmWDoDq3 ARrfuofVXOMwhaLqv1teKVF1/ocZD8r+uF5SS9NUkdHcDRzU1U9hL14ecYYDDDTDBmL5 /CSNdiviD54leOw55aVm+Z4rDhV1OJOtprSTrRSlduBxsnoRlSyJx8mC19+dFosb7+2y CCxLKRrGlSggLmCoThuBBJkLs5gDKv7B1fhdvrOF6io0fDM6AnaMnpT0EkZ0zUcMMPzl CdnFz3Iy8jmL0Cf/q43fFa90QjapgGggLoGaDzdjw3bgzHcxWtNuf44fpUaH2JSknela yaRg== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pkQjgN8Mux7w3nDooKTopVgwfUQck/EyfH1W0pRXG0hAvMxmQOX nYpDZ1+hoXuRr+D3J+Rtld05Jqo2F/hHB+03mOBsrnUi X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf7WEJMqbUr/zTDAbG9MxDrItpmfFIAN9B+GPTrXKRdUx1qRoFgOF1dUvylOHtyO+ByxphTjuG46yr20504PmFQ= X-Received: by 2002:a92:c268:0:b0:302:a938:81be with SMTP id h8-20020a92c268000000b00302a93881bemr15027555ild.84.1669669589824; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 13:06:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51022878-2dcf-42be-9990-60f2d1475ce5@sirjofri.de> <0df780bc-37c8-4f01-8c40-aa50e83d0573@sirjofri.de> In-Reply-To: <0df780bc-37c8-4f01-8c40-aa50e83d0573@sirjofri.de> From: adventures in9 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 13:06:19 -0800 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: event database HTML over XMPP API shader singleton Subject: Re: [9front] 9front on the Allwinner A64 Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk If you just want rio on a handheld, that has been done. You can dig around the old plan9 code for stuff for the compaq ipaq. There is bitsy/keyboard for on screen keyboard. The trickier part is going to be rethinking everything for what is effectively a "1 button mouse" style of input. And that apps run more as full screen in virtual desktops than as windows that change position. Or maybe use a tiling window manager? On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 11:58 PM sirjofri wrote: > > > 28.11.2022 01:27:59 adventures in9 : > > > Looks like I have some extra reading to do tonight. > > The Pine64 folks were kind enough to post the datasheet for the A64 > > https://files.pine64.org/doc/datasheet/pine64/Allwinner_A64_User_Manual= _V1.0.pdf > > Yes, and they also have the schematics for their boards you'll definitely= find useful. I skimmed through the A64 manual (and obviously skipped the i= rrelevant pages for now), it's big, but well structured. > > Btw there's also a lowlevel community specifically for pine devs on their= discord (which is also available through matrix and maybe even irc, idk). = There's a handful of nice and helpful people there. They also would be happ= y about a Plan 9 on pinephone, though they probably wouldn't know what to d= o with it. > > My long-term goal is to create a basis for a full Plan 9 phone, that mean= s, building a few basic touch-friendly apps, like a launcher and stuff like= that. It will really be a challenge since I want to try capturing the Plan= 9 concepts there, for example, it should be easily possible to plumb thing= s, snarf-and-paste, and I'd like to develop a touch-friendly text interface= . Obviously there's a long way until I can really run software like that on= the pinephone, but due to compatibility I should be able to develop those = apps fully on an amd64, run with mouse, and it should work on a pinephone a= utomatically (after recompile). > > sirjofri >