From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 1174 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2020 01:17:05 -0000 Received: from ewsd.inri.net (107.191.116.128) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Dec 2020 01:17:05 -0000 Received: from mimir.eigenstate.org ([206.124.132.107]) by ewsd; Wed Dec 9 20:06:03 -0500 2020 Received: from abbatoir.fios-router.home (pool-74-101-2-6.nycmny.fios.verizon.net [74.101.2.6]) by mimir.eigenstate.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 99376bf2 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256:NO); Wed, 9 Dec 2020 17:05:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: To: steve@quintile.net To: 9front@9front.org Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 17:05:51 -0800 From: ori@eigenstate.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: non-blocking CMS realtime-java polling control Subject: Re: [9front] web browsing- vmx/vnc/rd/x2go/orher machine Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk Quoth Steve Simon : > > hi, > > i have not used plan9 for a couple of > years (p9p only) but have set up a pi > again. > > i have also never used 9front. > > what do you people use? Personally, a mix of mothra and vnc; I've got a smallish vultr vm that I have for vnc when on the road, as well as my work machine that I use as a vnc host at home. I'm hoping to replace that with vmx, but vmx needs some perf work. > are there any solutions for web browsing (where > abaco and mothra are not enough) on 9front? There's a native netsurf port: https://github.com/netsurf-plan9/nsport It works ok, though it's still kind of slow fetching over webfs. There's some work that needs to be done still: something to do with the scheduler making i/o slow. Phil9 can probably fill in a bit more on that front. > is vxe fast enough to run linux well? > do you use remote desktop (rd) or vnc? > maybe you just have a 2nd machine for that? I've found vmx frustratingly slow. But the path to fixing it seems clear. There are almost certainly a handful of operations that we're doing really frequently, and we're doing a context switch to the vmx proc on every vm exit. A shortcut in kernel for simple, common operations will probably speed things up quite a bit. I need to find time to identify the operations that matter, and write some code. > finally, anyone any opinions on x2go which some > claim is the most performant remote screen technology. Heard of it -- never tried, but it's likely to be a lot of effort to port or rewrite.