From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-vk0-f51.google.com ([209.85.213.51]) by ur; Sat Sep 9 22:59:25 EDT 2017 Received: by mail-vk0-f51.google.com with SMTP id x85so6891340vkx.5 for <9front@9front.org>; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 19:59:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pcW6VBg/75lUfoY54q/2eSifqIdYjeZ4qtlHnxZ0M7A=; b=PjHOnpgxqJ9rSb0ej3r577bv3zxMpDczw45ZFzxFJ6XqtQz/g8vqsA1Crb5ZAHlnAK Kvn8Onla7UxSxdf3oPKi5+VT9GU1pEWVICmLOHgVT+i20GxjpPdIyAVjjHAC4t5g28cs WMWXWnD4DpbMrof6zsREiuHXEc4LywL7GSUZQjpTKZ3NtARj9whU1kedJRF4zs5xCwoP dQSvYf+/MDJOzQeI/yzC4ltGOWlfmoRdJ6xoqa3t6QlHXB81dlYoC6x/R/0fehRAcoG8 myi9wXIUC6vE8mtJJTo92U7QknrFgFW+96GvO9CqgyNXQ0QNzgnGCWXuE6iIKV51N6ML cArw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pcW6VBg/75lUfoY54q/2eSifqIdYjeZ4qtlHnxZ0M7A=; b=Xbg22e0kHzycdURXMITQQ2aOlxGoev5MS1Q2SSfvcvDUPSXfxpMPMbLsXy7iv3ccc+ wXkSMbrqwlgtr6bYSife+8WAOMMemeDBu1k4RYCV+Y2w8IiGUJPU1ShEKodiuZQqijLf swKEhDRSxLF2NNklFtHDo8Lmrzz4LEMjjxqEn5LrCA2/RMi9ZlrFsJRobVlmbU3DVYNN ZRAwAxz38G2tho9nVuQI+wPTSbCfQD6qPl1M+ZRyjQPSi1joNuVXMw5hCTEtkvTkxa0R u8wGf1vSqyMIbP5yDXiBASzIhqm1Ds4IuC2IcPFJm4cVBSI70UxbfER/Ooblg93txdhN 6wvg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjnR7dOdXGm7PSpuPt3fvZmev8ysHhwopIMs+rgoLV0EViShUL4 rdf4XKWUrGyovbDgebUyfenhuOXUrw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QAtWh6ruderjVTvMqrg92DG2x/qzGA1T8yN1837I5U4A0GBvEeiJel+saTEEQBGmjs2Q1rCem1A8WfPNJz5nEE= X-Received: by 10.31.5.10 with SMTP id 10mr5075123vkf.112.1505012361507; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 19:59:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.1.209 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Sep 2017 19:59:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Hinchee Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 21:59:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: FQA Appendix J To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1143dd0c30b7720558ccff37" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: YAML interface scripting-based interface --001a1143dd0c30b7720558ccff37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" All, The intma.in link for the rpi image is dead on the fqa page. Is there a new site that this would be hosted on? Cheers, Sean --001a1143dd0c30b7720558ccff37 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All,

The intma.in link for the rpi image is dead on the fqa page.
Is there a new site that this would be hosted on?

C= heers,
Sean

--001a1143dd0c30b7720558ccff37-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from wopr.sciops.net ([216.126.196.60]) by ur; Sat Sep 9 23:04:29 EDT 2017 Received: (qmail 58395 invoked by uid 1001); 9 Sep 2017 20:04:27 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 20:04:27 -0700 From: Kurt H Maier To: 9front@9front.org Subject: Re: [9front] FQA Appendix J Message-ID: <20170910030427.GA46421@wopr> Mail-Followup-To: 9front@9front.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: stable anonymous SVG property session-aware solution On Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 09:59:21PM -0500, Sean Hinchee wrote: > All, > > The intma.in link for the rpi image is dead on the fqa page. > > Is there a new site that this would be hosted on? > > Cheers, > Sean I pushed a change to the fqa source, but the link is: http://sciops.net/downloads/9front-pi-3125.9fcca5b8ac11.img.bz2 use curl or wget or something because I'm too lazy to fix the mimetypes in my webshit khm From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-it0-f54.google.com ([209.85.214.54]) by ur; Sun Sep 10 01:24:06 EDT 2017 Received: by mail-it0-f54.google.com with SMTP id c195so10930005itb.1 for <9front@9front.org>; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 22:24:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=ROIdpmmdtbjP0Mjyq/8iPlperzKaQXget1QU7n2+CcA=; b=qWL0Ty8c8CO0Gy7dNF0mQEwguIUs1YsOXXkAh6FKsJ8Ix1ZkwlSqtNWvxqA52ToQIu 3azmqHv/AVVmMWpmQuEzmYP+OlTrhUDXwFWBTeikeU1EStTUxhQ11y1PT7B4Lv8AU/h5 zxZchtUJG/JrP57cOg3e0eo8tI3zvwCB3nv/gUg6U4/BsOzz6FZ0TEaBRkQynfdIgqvJ wfm6QiOp+MdAA05jXEJASwPP8Wj8j74dM5Llypmtgoivd2XSlzThmQVQEC1GPf0n6t9V gsjvaqmwukC3Q9p++G41QJiFxtE26ZrUjHACSQ4D4Ju/87Oclm1h0sDUkJj1HEXWIYtJ uRsA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=ROIdpmmdtbjP0Mjyq/8iPlperzKaQXget1QU7n2+CcA=; b=dztVI6v/d+FH6aR+JPKircQC/zDW4YNap/3QO6v+UDpSWG4reTXjIZ7MxVHev7y87B PBNHMqVJIRTvJZzeHd6V9pxGKlaXWuHnZgGIUU4Z8H0w9uiP4WCfAUA+5uS7X3N1wuO3 0mrYeNmXOUd091wSA13pdN6S/R8URa9G2PQCfZT7+xReAenUJpomyRqozmftOkEqBtmG J7S7OyI+GQQboc/fCnIFqCsEi8T2pwdIFB3arLxapLYkZVc//vebr+qJMbWLvObBVhy9 rBqSxG5wtyUvuIOPXiKrsSQ6aCyuBDCxJNPzwHEibjITAog8SSo5ZRWfYc5KM3rthdxw Zupw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgq2x+6LO61Qe8IlyGcxfzsWNuVsUwf0dCDapgPlzIQ+3eCFJWl tUasACB0lnrkNhcD X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QA4C8uatHwVyr/Yhye8nd/wQyhzLGsQyjO8phNpiedBS/QeM7hPLpXNGrWjUMfhzPeLu9ARmg== X-Received: by 10.36.203.196 with SMTP id u187mr8341729itg.62.1505021044479; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 22:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from ?IPv6:2610:130:116:2a00:c808:908d:35f1:91e3? ([2610:130:116:2a00:c808:908d:35f1:91e3]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id g189sm2897390ioe.79.2017.09.09.22.24.03 for <9front@9front.org> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Sep 2017 22:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [9front] FQA Appendix J To: 9front@9front.org References: <20170910030427.GA46421@wopr> From: Sean Hinchee Message-ID: <573a2725-9929-89e6-4ae5-b1a7d7408c76@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 00:24:05 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170910030427.GA46421@wopr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: transactional replication lifecycle-aware app Many thanks Kurt On 09/09/2017 10:04 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 09:59:21PM -0500, Sean Hinchee wrote: >> All, >> >> The intma.in link for the rpi image is dead on the fqa page. >> >> Is there a new site that this would be hosted on? >> >> Cheers, >> Sean > > I pushed a change to the fqa source, but the link is: > http://sciops.net/downloads/9front-pi-3125.9fcca5b8ac11.img.bz2 > > use curl or wget or something because I'm too lazy to fix the mimetypes > in my webshit > > khm From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from orthanc.ca ([208.79.93.154]) by ur; Mon Sep 11 19:12:16 EDT 2017 Received: from minnie.hitronhub.home (S0106a84e3f81a003.vc.shawcable.net [24.80.126.119]) (authenticated bits=0) by orthanc.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v8BNCE48055716 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for <9front@9front.org>; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 16:12:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) From: Lyndon Nerenberg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: [9front] FQA Appendix J Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 16:12:09 -0700 References: <20170910030427.GA46421@wopr> To: 9front@9front.org In-Reply-To: <20170910030427.GA46421@wopr> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: HTTP package-based core extension-oriented frontend > On Sep 9, 2017, at 8:04 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: >=20 > I pushed a change to the fqa source, but the link is: > http://sciops.net/downloads/9front-pi-3125.9fcca5b8ac11.img.bz2 So what hardware is this supposed to run on? I've tried it on my entire = collection of Pi 2's and 3's, and all I get is a second or two of the = green LED, after which it (LED) fades to black. Not even an init on the = HDMI screen. The same hardware boots stock 9labs Richard kernels, so = the hardware's good. Is there some piece of "Doh!" 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I was working on porting Richard's latest code to 9front code base with some= success. I can point to a source code repository if there is interest. Chris > On Sep 11, 2017, at 7:12 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On Sep 9, 2017, at 8:04 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: >>=20 >> I pushed a change to the fqa source, but the link is: >> http://sciops.net/downloads/9front-pi-3125.9fcca5b8ac11.img.bz2 >=20 > So what hardware is this supposed to run on? I've tried it on my entire c= ollection of Pi 2's and 3's, and all I get is a second or two of the green L= ED, after which it (LED) fades to black. Not even an init on the HDMI scree= n. The same hardware boots stock 9labs Richard kernels, so the hardware's g= ood. Is there some piece of "Doh!" I'm missing??? . From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from orthanc.ca ([208.79.93.154]) by ur; Mon Sep 11 19:37:48 EDT 2017 Received: from minnie.hitronhub.home (S0106a84e3f81a003.vc.shawcable.net [24.80.126.119]) (authenticated bits=0) by orthanc.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v8BNbkUG055864 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for <9front@9front.org>; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 16:37:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) From: Lyndon Nerenberg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: [9front] FQA Appendix J Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 16:37:41 -0700 References: <20170910030427.GA46421@wopr> <54FD7C3C-51DA-4434-8BC7-945C8868188C@yahoo.ca> To: 9front@9front.org In-Reply-To: <54FD7C3C-51DA-4434-8BC7-945C8868188C@yahoo.ca> Message-Id: <848DAD9B-FD58-4D3E-BD68-787FB2D4FFCA@orthanc.ca> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: extensible mobile realtime-java-based database-scale cache-oriented realtime-based backend > On Sep 11, 2017, at 4:28 PM, Chris McGee = wrote: >=20 > I believe that image only works on the Pi 1 models. Turns out I have one of those as well. It just never occurred to me to = try that one out :-) > I was working on porting Richard's latest code to 9front code base = with some success. I can point to a source code repository if there is = interest. I'd like to keep an eye on this, and possibly help out. Thanks! --lyndon From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-yw0-f177.google.com ([209.85.161.177]) by ur; Tue Sep 12 03:56:05 EDT 2017 Received: by mail-yw0-f177.google.com with SMTP id v72so24447504ywa.3 for <9front@9front.org>; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 00:56:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=811JehwVq9oELQyQwKp6my1fpUH71d5LzZnyWE02hNQ=; b=T3HQO8kVl5EMAOkqk+foWLATQBfie3Bc9Drg4r3avc8VOL/0aJZrwnCljiHfzf/9Mn 3B+/kHALbay+DPcrUZlQz9PW9L8DAnwR7iCHa2HAFHmTkIssrb2dbvQvaCBGN+gxWS09 spKWf7T2guCZeU6C1xFcFNbHllWxhxvbolEtExdOZ1hcnRVkQ85Av2I0HXxKUslJicCY xfQWtalz6s7L4j8i1uBm19CWimqDsNcMzb0xH/Xdt5DfOgV9zTfKMCo1O+ax8LbkiA8y Ij2kCBKd+V7E5oPWdSj+SdOkhhOfL/UFzzRwJMzZvDFLPLHrVptTApQBQDjPj/zjEzOe cWlg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=811JehwVq9oELQyQwKp6my1fpUH71d5LzZnyWE02hNQ=; b=Wqramkx7O+1GJwvcCvnti6k7cvdeO009MToFlr5InLUzr2r3lPWYwjL2yyGg6w8WZV 96E57c5K177YZZ0QiZEw4XKCQvaGBtlY3ql1BbUWq8KyOi5K/Xumtao656CU1PkadFgs 1Qt/kmxDBfv35tz0iibeG+ur2COapPU7YOEf4WhoKQQwuXCKKEh328bvGEZJjlEY3itQ 76mKbTyOVJ2HN80dxYtadQz0GgfQHTnFme85NpYvPYL6jXRJ69mrzikYLXoD2Kg0GWO5 buNKyq0YrqRGCdHlZeFecLLVZJoNCh7x7HHfKbxvSOvQ6oY30fyvE/xXmW7/VR0C32FE SKNA== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgBE7FUERArpr3wLd+zBHBaCAu2VOKB+uy5Eqbq2X+lpNCKZQ3t DyR5Vjf4pz0KCbTPggaLa3RwW0zRDQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADKCNb70UQKBDtT9g3TvHgZenKxjeX/6IWh34nRUAyqgcziqJ4Jn89Ij/2bxp3hS4wLzd+/eIARoM3EtrOun6qloG8I= X-Received: by 10.129.160.215 with SMTP id x206mr11532161ywg.452.1505202962937; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 00:56:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.179.8 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 00:56:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <848DAD9B-FD58-4D3E-BD68-787FB2D4FFCA@orthanc.ca> References: <20170910030427.GA46421@wopr> <54FD7C3C-51DA-4434-8BC7-945C8868188C@yahoo.ca> <848DAD9B-FD58-4D3E-BD68-787FB2D4FFCA@orthanc.ca> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 09:56:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9front] FQA Appendix J To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: advanced full-stack rails information frontend Please save everybody's time and trash all gen1 models to avoid wasting time trying to debug software because of actual *hardware issues*: The power on these boards is too flaky. I heard (didn't test) newer generations don't have that issue. IMO all rpi are still a waste of time because a "network operating system" deserves real ethernet, not just USB. Perhaps you might think they will be more useful as a terminal, but I heard the graphics are too laggy even for that. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from orthanc.ca ([208.79.93.154]) by ur; Tue Sep 12 16:51:40 EDT 2017 Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by orthanc.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v8CKpc6j063473 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for <9front@9front.org>; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:51:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:51:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Lyndon Nerenberg To: 9front@9front.org Subject: Re: [9front] FQA Appendix J In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20170910030427.GA46421@wopr> <54FD7C3C-51DA-4434-8BC7-945C8868188C@yahoo.ca> <848DAD9B-FD58-4D3E-BD68-787FB2D4FFCA@orthanc.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (BSF 202 2017-01-01) Organization: The Frobozz Magic Homing Pigeon Company MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on orthanc.ca List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: template wrapper information interface > Perhaps you might think they will be more useful as a terminal, but I > heard the graphics are too laggy even for that. I'm using Pi2s as terminals (running the labs distribution) and they work just fine. The graphics are snappy enough for my needs (which is mostly running acme). From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from b-painless.mh.aa.net.uk ([81.187.30.52]) by ur; Tue Sep 12 17:33:21 EDT 2017 Received: from 10.190.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.190.10] helo=quintile.net) by b-painless.mh.aa.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1drsnk-0006Oa-QH for 9front@9front.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 22:33:00 +0100 Message-ID: <51442fe6539a128692b31a4069b54545@quintile.net> From: "Steve Simon" Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 22:32:57 +0100 To: 9front@9front.org Subject: Re: [9front] FQA Appendix J In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: singleton module XML over HTTP framework table-aware content-driven DOM controller I have a Pi3 is my desktop at work, which runs mutant Labs/Richard Miller/9front code. very, very solid and really quite snappy. Graphics are very good, compilations feel a little slow but perfectly usable. Only rdesktop to windows (for chrome) is slow but I guess this is more networking than anything else. fwiw I use a couple of usb serial adapters and a second ether interface (Thanks to Richard) on the Pi. -Steve From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-yw0-f170.google.com ([209.85.161.170]) by ur; Wed Sep 13 03:38:50 EDT 2017 Received: by mail-yw0-f170.google.com with SMTP id r85so33106949ywg.1 for <9front@9front.org>; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:38:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pA2XP3IoY3XM86JN5e28+UIPaEgSMNIYInma4bkTpQQ=; b=rs/vtmLl+4+neBfkfNJ20kuaOqz+KFqL4mTCvsKUPA8lYbsZd/kUlrC6Jv9MJZeI4q ZGo3pxqzFxzl6vnk6JxwXFo3mAE+03hg5zBpPAcnORYNjBP4gf5BiaYIzuXf3zZeDiPJ y8QrHMYvkzrZ/nl44fxaHGrbi2SnON0A8s4lF/wZ1iqW31fN7wGszjop4IFJU+G29DBc FeWajzB/Fh+OgmOrD8L/eKXUsj+l4pVUlseryB7je4XQxEFgkWd5g/UJui7afU22gfng QN2v9+/aInZ/+TJ4ZLHvRKQsnW0RfgtfN9iDiCWtwYMQCQZdYv8aRcGVmQuKDdYHCRyV rdDA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=pA2XP3IoY3XM86JN5e28+UIPaEgSMNIYInma4bkTpQQ=; b=kj8Bzj2JAJjYp0HsUMXDLnw36DQIaR1YtMkMKT38pbhgKlElT2MbNXW/EqIHuX/vgW 14+A76d3Owt2QhsUP5gjy7FPZsFg8fjYzTzcqaMlwcardxeSb3FU8duRBdvnXAEueQds +w765OIWLbfeW6lnocVr3jWiEOW9CRBUToQ2jjGjGH67/GGQazOad6zJBpAMFw0UCKCP mJ4uRaJiEWUDuRhHiFAlPgArZrYy4PIbEjjX3qkslL7VSQCTFdlps/OOMU0FYJXb3rff RBdUr5eHW2EIT9xk/1JG+1aAczvA6xmKjx+ImBN9WKtwGUHA4tN8MsPgdVkbLlhEvqH7 /UqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUiPGyi3TZqiElS14RxQ3HsMj6wLD4cYSBd5tfyjzvmZMFScIA74 aGeyOabPLhSpCAsjWve0ehyx1uHd5aFMKDw4Pvo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QAI1hIoTjjN6Y6smb8X6TYeicrhI0cj0bWnWkvnwOZxVPnvmIoXCD/JImoZlkCY/ozolnL72IZvmM4j0kHFUEw= X-Received: by 10.37.173.14 with SMTP id y14mr14507573ybi.27.1505288327553; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:38:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.179.8 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:38:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51442fe6539a128692b31a4069b54545@quintile.net> References: <51442fe6539a128692b31a4069b54545@quintile.net> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 09:38:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9front] FQA Appendix J To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: compliant plugin descriptor pipelining realtime frontend > more networking than anything else what do you mean with networking? From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from b-painless.mh.aa.net.uk ([81.187.30.52]) by ur; Wed Sep 13 05:39:44 EDT 2017 Received: from 10.190.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.190.10] helo=quintile.net) by b-painless.mh.aa.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ds48i-0003nL-1O for 9front@9front.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 10:39:24 +0100 Message-ID: <9d28cf335af6f495816b047f799bc62a@quintile.net> From: "Steve Simon" Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 10:39:20 +0100 To: 9front@9front.org Subject: Re: [9front] FQA Appendix J In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: content-addressed open-source table rails First I would say rdesktop is perfectly usable on the pi, but scrolling pages on a chrome results in rather obvious page redraws. I believe the reason rdesktop is a bit slow from my pi to my windows laptop (both on wired to trhe same switch) is the pi's 100BaseT NIC and the fact that the Pi's NIC is effectively USB attached. I have no proof of this, but that is my educated guess given that plan9 generated graphics seem quick on the Pi3. If anyone can improve the performance of rdesktop on the pi by software means I would be most interested but I think the limitation is hardware. -Steve From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-yw0-f170.google.com ([209.85.161.170]) by ur; Wed Sep 13 05:42:35 EDT 2017 Received: by mail-yw0-f170.google.com with SMTP id v72so31537683ywa.3 for <9front@9front.org>; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 02:42:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=W0AKZmMtp68KFgclws77KVjE1uUmKEVTCFDqPvzGNsE=; b=W/WSiZKrKT0AhThYivKnQR2JEhSFGJe9UFBMww0gcfpOWO4mx+9o8m4YWyPR+vbt19 0mbK+md0uzCGX0f7bbx1CNnwzl82MBgGPspLbdodq40hfZdKv1uAr4iPIxOyLL/sx9gQ ofsGg8C94+UcMBsRitVUwx7t9pjUZkI1eu3OpKqpkowwYHiAr8XeXLYGMCIFzE3GAWpn rP2mYKsysQ9EfgJQIDvDa5RIBcP6UUFuqT6a+1G9V3kOyDiUluk76dZVCvqA0VNb48oF UN8nXKbiHGBlxKkYel1VRQ+x44ioyN2edrxulbiDeW3oq47pPFJiPBk4mVupwoCIDqh6 /Xdg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=W0AKZmMtp68KFgclws77KVjE1uUmKEVTCFDqPvzGNsE=; b=cBKKw3FjzAjuJd32woDwakVZOV84Bh97uqaAIJt2lNhWi0q0Pv1dGg/ywyGJTIJFWu gJSwbvrzHYhTvAOeewb//GpBAQdi8fXhvzAhiC9qd7YVdi01FrkVviLkyN4kAO2FaMqw 2VCFSFljLrHyMXEoqxbhCmbChittEzdWAsLHs5mpu/UYfERDLxsXv41iZvttPFYftG52 rvvN9aS4tJNZqDITDHPc5EG18dRS6Vjt1GR+hXOv5f5bnKnSMPX1q1HwEuLVFGDx7eQz fYRih3OzYEvDkSSc182aYdptJ6GGQ1fx83510UIz7kJbQU08OczoUi5p1PookJDMhHcC JRzA== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUhcZcj7e4TWKEtPUdxA6umDDTHa0hj46Q42aGg5AR3o/6Q6s8/f 3p1yTh62yPIXh5t2545jD59J/u6tN9hx5gTI6T4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QAkFEo9c6CrUFXTM78Im/rLOW+a3DiOwvlaeQojMQGZiqd5h7IHdvf5+6fi83r//VYB2x/XH7OaeLRGAnL2JL0= X-Received: by 10.37.132.75 with SMTP id r11mr14649515ybm.175.1505295753600; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 02:42:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.179.8 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 02:42:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9d28cf335af6f495816b047f799bc62a@quintile.net> References: <9d28cf335af6f495816b047f799bc62a@quintile.net> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 11:42:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9front] FQA Appendix J To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: general-purpose strategy HTTP scripting GPU layer so in the same network from a non-pi device you get faster rdesktop performance to the windows laptop? On 9/13/17, Steve Simon wrote: > First I would say rdesktop is perfectly usable on the pi, but scrolling > pages > on a chrome results in rather obvious page redraws. > > I believe the reason rdesktop is a bit slow from my pi to my windows laptop > (both on wired to trhe same switch) is the pi's 100BaseT NIC and > the fact that the Pi's NIC is effectively USB attached. > > I have no proof of this, but that is my educated guess given that plan9 > generated graphics seem quick on the Pi3. > > If anyone can improve the performance of rdesktop on the pi by software > means > I would be most interested but I think the limitation is hardware. > > -Steve >