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* [9front] [NOOB ALERT] Use amd64 kernel?
@ 2022-02-04 19:48 Alexander Shendi
  2022-02-04 20:50 ` Amavect
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From: Alexander Shendi @ 2022-02-04 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

Hi,

Should I use the amd64 kernel (9pc64) vs the 386 kernel (9pc) on a machine with 2G RAM?

TIA
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* Re: [9front] [NOOB ALERT] Use amd64 kernel?
  2022-02-04 19:48 [9front] [NOOB ALERT] Use amd64 kernel? Alexander Shendi
@ 2022-02-04 20:50 ` Amavect
  2022-02-04 21:03 ` ori
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From: Amavect @ 2022-02-04 20:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

Use 9pc64 if your cpu supports it.
But it doesn't really matter, try them both!

Thanks,
Amavect

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* Re: [9front] [NOOB ALERT] Use amd64 kernel?
  2022-02-04 19:48 [9front] [NOOB ALERT] Use amd64 kernel? Alexander Shendi
  2022-02-04 20:50 ` Amavect
@ 2022-02-04 21:03 ` ori
  2022-02-04 21:28   ` Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
  2022-02-04 22:52   ` Alexander Shendi
  2022-02-04 21:16 ` sirjofri
  2022-02-05 17:41 ` Stanley Lieber
  3 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: ori @ 2022-02-04 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

Quoth Alexander Shendi <Alexander.Shendi@web.de>:
> Hi,
> 
> Should I use the amd64 kernel (9pc64) vs the 386 kernel (9pc) on a machine with 2G RAM?
> 
> TIA
> -- 
> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet.
> 

Shouldn't matter. 386 has marginally more hardware
support, but if your hardware is supported, both
should work (and if it's not supported on amd64,
please complain!)


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* Re: [9front] [NOOB ALERT] Use amd64 kernel?
  2022-02-04 19:48 [9front] [NOOB ALERT] Use amd64 kernel? Alexander Shendi
  2022-02-04 20:50 ` Amavect
  2022-02-04 21:03 ` ori
@ 2022-02-04 21:16 ` sirjofri
  2022-02-05 17:41 ` Stanley Lieber
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: sirjofri @ 2022-02-04 21:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alexander Shendi

Hello and welcome,

04.02.2022 20:48:59 Alexander Shendi <Alexander.Shendi@web.de>:
> Should I use the amd64 kernel (9pc64) vs the 386 kernel (9pc) on a 
> machine with 2G RAM?

If your system supports it, the answer could be as simple as: just do it. 
I don't think it makes much of a difference besides being 64bit, bit un 
my experience if I can use amd64 I'd use it.

Especially if you have other amd64 machines in your network. You can 
compile your software once for one platform and it's enough instead of 
maintaining a second set of binaries (although it's very easy).

> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet.

Nice, another German user 😉

sirjofri

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* Re: [9front] [NOOB ALERT] Use amd64 kernel?
  2022-02-04 21:03 ` ori
@ 2022-02-04 21:28   ` Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
  2022-02-04 22:52   ` Alexander Shendi
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From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk @ 2022-02-04 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

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On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 12:09 AM <ori@eigenstate.org> wrote:

> Quoth Alexander Shendi <Alexander.Shendi@web.de>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Should I use the amd64 kernel (9pc64) vs the 386 kernel (9pc) on a
> machine with 2G RAM?
> >
> > TIA
> > --
> > Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet.
> >
>
> Shouldn't matter. 386 has marginally more hardware
> support, but if your hardware is supported, both
> should work (and if it's not supported on amd64,
> please complain!)
>
>
amd64 or i386 usage with respect to bit size ( 64 bits versus 32 bits )
depends not on memory size but  CPU kind / model .

Please , first check your CPU for supported bit size .


Memory for i386 is important when size of memory is greater than 4
Gigabytes
( as maximum supported memory size )

(

Consider

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
Physical Address Extension

) .

For amd64 , memory size is not important ,  BUT  placement of memory chips
on your main board is  VERY important ( even for i386 ) .
Please also check memory placement rules of your main board
with respect to your memory chips .


With my best wishes for all ,


Mehmet Erol Sanliturk

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* Re: [9front] [NOOB ALERT] Use amd64 kernel?
  2022-02-04 21:03 ` ori
  2022-02-04 21:28   ` Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
@ 2022-02-04 22:52   ` Alexander Shendi
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Shendi @ 2022-02-04 22:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

I can verify that both kernels work.

Am 4. Februar 2022 22:03:55 MEZ schrieb ori@eigenstate.org:
>Quoth Alexander Shendi <Alexander.Shendi@web.de>:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Should I use the amd64 kernel (9pc64) vs the 386 kernel (9pc) on a machine with 2G RAM?
>> 
>> TIA
>> -- 
>> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet.
>> 
>
>Shouldn't matter. 386 has marginally more hardware
>support, but if your hardware is supported, both
>should work (and if it's not supported on amd64,
>please complain!)
>

-- 
Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet.

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* Re: [9front] [NOOB ALERT] Use amd64 kernel?
  2022-02-04 19:48 [9front] [NOOB ALERT] Use amd64 kernel? Alexander Shendi
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-02-04 21:16 ` sirjofri
@ 2022-02-05 17:41 ` Stanley Lieber
  2022-02-05 21:11   ` Alexander Shendi
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stanley Lieber @ 2022-02-05 17:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

On February 4, 2022 7:48:59 PM UTC, Alexander Shendi <Alexander.Shendi@web.de> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Should I use the amd64 kernel (9pc64) vs the 386 kernel (9pc) on a machine with 2G RAM?
>
>TIA

let me read your mind:

the core2duo is an amd64 architecture cpu. use 9pc64.

sl

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* Re: [9front] [NOOB ALERT] Use amd64 kernel?
  2022-02-05 17:41 ` Stanley Lieber
@ 2022-02-05 21:11   ` Alexander Shendi
  2022-02-05 23:12     ` Kurt H Maier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Shendi @ 2022-02-05 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front, Stanley Lieber

Hi,

Thanks, but I know I can use the 9pc64 kernel. My reasoning was along these lines:
386: 32bit ints + pointers
amd64: 64bit ints + pointers, potentially a waste for 2G RAM, but more CPU registers in amd64 long mode?





Am 5. Februar 2022 18:41:42 MEZ schrieb Stanley Lieber <sl@stanleylieber.com>:
>On February 4, 2022 7:48:59 PM UTC, Alexander Shendi <Alexander.Shendi@web.de> wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>Should I use the amd64 kernel (9pc64) vs the 386 kernel (9pc) on a machine with 2G RAM?
>>
>>TIA
>
>let me read your mind:
>
>the core2duo is an amd64 architecture cpu. use 9pc64.
>
>sl

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* Re: [9front] [NOOB ALERT] Use amd64 kernel?
  2022-02-05 21:11   ` Alexander Shendi
@ 2022-02-05 23:12     ` Kurt H Maier
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Kurt H Maier @ 2022-02-05 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9front

On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 10:11:47PM +0100, Alexander Shendi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks, but I know I can use the 9pc64 kernel. My reasoning was along these lines:
> 386: 32bit ints + pointers
> amd64: 64bit ints + pointers, potentially a waste for 2G RAM, but more CPU registers in amd64 long mode?
> 

In your normal 9front usage, are you dangerously close to OOM
conditions?  Is your software so meticulously optimized as to care how
many CPU registers are available?  Flip a coin.

khm

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2022-02-04 20:50 ` Amavect
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2022-02-04 21:28   ` Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
2022-02-04 22:52   ` Alexander Shendi
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