From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,URI_HEX autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17110 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2022 00:34:28 -0000 Received: from 4ess.inri.net (216.126.196.42) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 14 Mar 2022 00:34:28 -0000 Received: from 5ess.inri.net ([107.191.111.177]) by 4ess; Sun Mar 13 17:50:02 -0400 2022 Received: from smtpclient.apple ([104.59.85.219]) by 5ess; Sun Mar 13 17:30:55 -0400 2022 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Stanley Lieber Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: To: 9front@9front.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 17:30:55 -0400 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (19D52) List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: pipelining-based full-stack-oriented hardware Subject: Re: [9front] listserv Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk fwiw, i have never setup any kind of dmarc for outgoing mail. sl > On Mar 13, 2022, at 5:22 PM, thinktankworkspaces@gmail.com wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFGreat question. My mail kept getting bounced by gmail. Yahoo mail= was fine but gmail was a pain=20 >=20 > For gmail to accept mail I needed a "_dmarc" for the root of the domain an= d the host "_dmarc.maat.thinktankworkspaces.com". >=20 > Here is the configuration: >=20 > @ 10800 IN SOA ns1.gandi.net. hostmaster.gandi.net. 1646461443 10800 3600 6= 04800 10800 > @ 10800 IN A 45.79.94.76 > @ 10800 IN MX 10 maat.thinktankworkspaces.com. > @ 10800 IN MX 10 mail.thinktankworkspaces.com. > @ 10800 IN MX 10 thinktankworkspaces.com. > @ 10800 IN TXT "v=3Dspf1 a mx ip4:45.79.94.76 -all" > _20948fec0056d2c1f86019ec5d2b200d 10800 IN CNAME 8e44ca796bf0f517dce6d208a= 55cc87f.d01479e663f61af9158941fd03926cee.d7f2ad3f771764a19618.sectigo.com. > _dmarc 10800 IN TXT "v=3DDMARC1; p=3Dnone; fo=3D1; rua=3Dmailto:glenda@thi= nktankworkspaces.com; ruf=3Dmailto:glenda@thinktankworkspaces.com" > _dmarc.maat 10800 IN TXT "v=3DDMARC1; p=3Dnone; fo=3D1; rua=3Dmailto:glend= a@thinktankworkspaces.com; ruf=3Dmailto:glenda@thinktankworkspaces.com" > blog 10800 IN CNAME blogs.vip.gandi.net. > maat 10800 IN A 45.79.94.76 > maat 10800 IN TXT "v=3Dspf1 a mx ip4:45.79.94.76 -all" > mail 10800 IN A 45.79.94.76 > mail 10800 IN TXT "v=3Dspf1 a mx ip4:45.79.94.76 -all" > www 10800 IN A 45.79.94.76 >=20 > All of this was such a pain that decided to write about my experience:=20 >=20 > http://thinktankworkspaces.com/plan9/email-upas >=20 > Again this seems to be working with a lot of other places I send mail to. >=20 > I very much welcome comments.=20 >=20 > Plan9 doesn't currently support DKIM. But its helpful to have spf configur= ed and _dmarc even if its not using dkim the _dmarc reveals a lot. >=20 > 'v=3DDMARC 1 ' > indicates the protocol version. >=20 > The suggested DMARC record above includes a monitor policy (p=3Dnone). Thi= s means that you are not instructing mailbox providers to take any action wi= th your email that fails authentication.=20 >=20 > 'fo' lets mailbox providers know you want message samples of emails that f= ailed either SPF and/or DKIM. For the value: > 'Use 0' to receive a report if both SPF and DKIM fail. (default) > 'Use 1' to receive a report if either SPF or DKIM fail. (recommended) >=20 > So its interesting it does pass on mail-tester.com and Gmail somehow resol= ves it and does a pass on the _dmarc for both hosts.=20 >=20 >=20 > Quoth hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>: >> why would you use dmarc? i was not aware it was necessary for >> anything. and in this email i see spf is valid, but dmarc isn't. >>=20 >>> On 3/13/22, william@thinktankworkspaces.com >>> wrote: >>> Yes. Every time I send to 9front@9front.org. Please keep in mind i'm usi= ng >>> upas as a >>> server. I suspected it was my problem I worked hard to get 9/10 on >>> mail-tester.com and have >>> _dmarc's for host and domain so that google doesn't flag it but as diffi= cult >>> as it was to get working. I still don't fully understand upas. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Quoth Stanley Lieber : >>>> this address is subscribed to the mailing list. are they complaining to= >>>> you directly? >>>>=20 >>>> sl >>>>=20 >>>>> On Mar 13, 2022, at 3:37 AM, william@thinktankworkspaces.com wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> =EF=BB=BFWhy is my mail going to MARIO.BALDINI@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG and w= hy is it >>>>> getting bounced? Seems to be a forwarding from >>>>> 9front-bounces@4ess.inri.net >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >=20 >=20