From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 30891 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2021 20:17:17 -0000 Received: from 4ess.inri.net (216.126.196.42) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Dec 2021 20:17:17 -0000 Received: from mail-wr1-f54.google.com ([209.85.221.54]) by 4ess; Thu Dec 30 14:54:17 -0500 2021 Received: by mail-wr1-f54.google.com with SMTP id k18so15595089wrg.11 for <9front@9front.org>; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 11:54:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to; bh=Pu4GpfNwX80wXabFZtXYbE1zFGlljlnjAxd2ZsNNfBE=; b=QMt+R/zyUWYiVNW4t5U9DUS3gNTmZHBPQRbZtrKXyBwwxsZt7Dhyp2XomdZRNpgaAJ YQQqn7wGlS+v8UyT9u6GbbqXUAp414GuPgSVbaDGwnDMQwROa4lEJK0Cmiqbf3NfMQAS GIPIuScmXA4hp6RsHRLdK18sTR4xv98kNzsXt5tE+Pv3Lg7Aogt1TJXuUQ6XQDv3Ds6I Zw71ofth4wxmShjelpNPoV8FNSIGZQkiSH1ZmoZV0OuE4s/SxSS+BdP70q+vhEYul/BZ BhKLAP15EDjXd0A4/u4ynA5tssd95WACBoga5EU1dHEf6b+xs7PiRnatZCU/DEnm1643 qrBg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to; bh=Pu4GpfNwX80wXabFZtXYbE1zFGlljlnjAxd2ZsNNfBE=; b=TF7nZI89lZeNcdZu8LOA0GtF8+GzGfEJr8/UgnXCuM3TO2pcGU6FTcrQxgZG7Aykfl CkY7pN+uk+Poi5F9mrZLnGX8tUrFXrhyjbItz2PnTXd7p3Bz6eYkiDqL5ji+pKJdpy+s 6CiMQjNHoJ1uB+a0328zB1/Gcxfs3qHSj9XcDCmQrclqPIFFO3TUMlpFfEpk+pcSyrz2 w6zvw8FZkdbv9LaqDx2zjyOTmaEwFq356slKfm8VaNmH8hRa+z6+ln4HSLcvn43iUEae 6ZyThiaNGS3+mMdiAcylifPmvh73335NyNKS+y8hebm11PsNCe00MLKQ6BNheLHii9Kk wMBg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531WQSShLMmVI0RzkBVpLJ/3MQh/BEh9KsUjV793m863RceLqkTK 3XKj0CTWrV1eTZUXu2sFRRklGj8NT8Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy4aWdqHUm0YX6r9tKzFtGex9ISoRMVUIWaXHN0cxI4aJT64/XLCje0sh/RbT23Y10g5piE9A== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:47ad:: with SMTP id 13mr8019039wrb.664.1640894050771; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 11:54:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from beryllium.local (dyndsl-095-033-039-180.ewe-ip-backbone.de. [95.33.39.180]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o2sm24027297wru.109.2021.12.30.11.54.10 for <9front@9front.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 30 Dec 2021 11:54:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (beryllium.local [local]) by beryllium.local (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 695359dc for <9front@9front.org>; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 20:54:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:54:02 +0000 From: Humm To: 9front@9front.org Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: 9front@9front.org References: <878rw2hr56.fsf@turtle-trading.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <878rw2hr56.fsf@turtle-trading.net> List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: distributed scripting polling template-based backend Subject: Re: [9front] New user Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk Quoth Benjamin Riefenstahl: >Besides trying out the native stuff, I have started a personal project >to get Tcl to run. Isn’t there a Tcl port in fgb’s contrib? (That means you do `9fs 9pio` (read /rc/bin/9fs) and look at /n/9pio/contrib/fgb/root/sys/src/^(lib cmd)/^tcl.) (Also, why?) >This is uncovering bugs in Tcl as well as in >9front's APE library. Are you interested in patches for APE? APE was not yet thrown out of 9front. Generally bugfixes are good. >I notice >that voices on the net discourage porting packages to Plan 9 and that >"This UNIX compatibility [meaning APE] is old and quite unmaintained" >(https://pspodcasting.net/dan/blog/2019/plan9_desktop.html). Yep, APE is old and quite unmaintained. I recommend looking at https://git.sr.ht/~ft/npe . -- Humm