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From: Kurt H Maier <khm@sciops.net>
To: 9front@9front.org
Subject: Re: [9front] Enabling a service
Date: Tue, 7 May 2024 14:35:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZjqeuN4NtxEjo7PJ@wopr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DF589810-D3E5-46A0-A78F-67881BD22175@ecloud.org>

On Tue, May 07, 2024 at 02:11:50PM -0700, Shawn Rutledge wrote:
> When a newbie starts with one machine and then wants to try starting 
> up network services shortly afterwards, it should be more directly 
> possible, IMO

Strong disagree.  The last thing we need is seventy thousand
poorly-configured 9front machines running half-assed network services.

> Unless you are actually in a lab environment with shared machines,
> nobody expects a diskless terminal anymore; 

Also not sure this is a valid assumption.  About half the plan 9 users I
know use diskless terminals.

Basically there's more to setting up a plan 9 network than switching a
machine to accept remote cpu connections.  If someone isn't willing to
learn how all the pieces work, I do not think they would benefit from
additional footguns.  If you don't want a distributed operating system,
and you don't want to learn how plan 9 works, there are a lot of other
choices for operating systems out there, and using one of those to set
up a dimly-understood imminent botnet drone would have far less annoying
consequences for this mailing list.

People can do whatever they want with their computers, but I don't think
there's a specific onus on 9front to make bad ideas easier to execute.

khm

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-07 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-06 11:32 Rocky Hotas
2024-05-06 11:58 ` Alex Musolino
2024-05-06 12:43 ` ori
2024-05-06 15:16   ` Scott Flowers
2024-05-06 15:37     ` sirjofri
2024-05-06 16:32     ` Stanley Lieber
2024-05-06 22:18   ` Rocky Hotas
2024-05-06 22:59     ` ori
2024-05-06 23:00     ` ori
2024-05-07  8:22       ` Rocky Hotas
2024-05-07  8:29         ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
2024-05-07  9:03           ` Rocky Hotas
2024-05-07  9:14         ` sirjofri
2024-05-07 21:11           ` Shawn Rutledge
2024-05-07 21:35             ` Kurt H Maier [this message]
2024-05-07 21:45               ` sirjofri
2024-05-07 21:54             ` sl
2024-05-07 21:58               ` sl
2024-05-07 23:15                 ` Lennart Jablonka
2024-05-07 23:16                 ` Shawn Rutledge
2024-05-07 23:45                   ` Shawn Rutledge
2024-05-08  0:34                   ` Kurt H Maier
2024-05-08  0:35                   ` sl
2024-05-08  1:05                     ` Jacob Moody
2024-05-08  1:24                       ` sl
2024-05-08  7:22                         ` hiro
2024-05-08 14:04                           ` Stanley Lieber
2024-05-08 12:08                         ` Stuart Morrow
2024-05-08 16:37                           ` Brian Stuart
2024-05-08 20:16                             ` hiro
2024-05-08 21:26                               ` Stuart Morrow
2024-05-08 21:17                             ` Disconnection-tolerant / distributed filesystems (was Re: [9front] Enabling a service) Shawn Rutledge
2024-05-08 14:25                         ` [9front] Enabling a service Jacob Moody
2024-05-08  3:41                       ` Ori Bernstein
2024-05-08  4:09                         ` sl
2024-05-08  8:39                           ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
2024-05-08 14:17                             ` Jacob Moody
2024-05-08 15:49                               ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
2024-05-08 16:10                                 ` Jacob Moody
2024-05-08 16:33                                   ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
2024-05-08 17:27                                     ` Jacob Moody
2024-05-08 18:00                                       ` Steve Simon
2024-05-08 19:46                                         ` hiro
2024-05-08 19:46                                   ` Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
2024-05-08 20:34                                     ` tlaronde
2024-05-08 14:57                   ` Lucas Francesco
2024-05-08 15:10                     ` an2qzavok
2024-05-08  2:11             ` Thaddeus Woskowiak

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