From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from 199.241.189.110 ([199.241.189.110]) by ttr; Sat Aug 2 19:18:37 EDT 2014 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 19:18:32 -0400 From: sl@9front.org To: 9front@9front.org Subject: Fwd: Re: [TUHS] Unix taste Message-ID: List-ID: <9front.9front.org> X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: SOAP component-oriented out-scaling service-based solution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-dcmvklwhjxfyjnqbgcagbziwxw" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-dcmvklwhjxfyjnqbgcagbziwxw Content-Disposition: inline --upas-dcmvklwhjxfyjnqbgcagbziwxw Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from www.oztivo.net ([65.49.60.197]) by ttr; Sat Aug 2 11:39:36 EDT 2014 Received: by www.oztivo.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id 2190913F04; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 01:39:34 +1000 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on www.oztivo.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from www.oztivo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.oztivo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B88A24D2AA; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 01:39:01 +1000 (EST) X-Original-To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Delivered-To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Received: by www.oztivo.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id 1CF1E13F04; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 01:38:59 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.cs.dartmouth.edu (mail.cs.dartmouth.edu [129.170.212.100]) by www.oztivo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8125713EE8 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 01:38:58 +1000 (EST) Received: from coolidge.cs.dartmouth.edu (coolidge.cs.dartmouth.edu [129.170.213.217]) by mail.cs.dartmouth.edu (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s72FctU8030763 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 2 Aug 2014 11:38:55 -0400 Received: from coolidge.cs.dartmouth.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coolidge.cs.dartmouth.edu (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s72FcshN021170; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 11:38:55 -0400 Received: (from doug@localhost) by coolidge.cs.dartmouth.edu (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) id s72Fcs7o021169; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 11:38:54 -0400 From: Doug McIlroy Message-Id: <201408021538.s72Fcs7o021169@coolidge.cs.dartmouth.edu> List-ID: <9front.9front.org> X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: SOAP component-oriented out-scaling service-based solution Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2014 11:38:54 -0400 To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org, lm@mcvoy.com User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [TUHS] Unix taste X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org > So Doug, ed? Or what? Yes, ed for small things. It loads instantly and works in the current window without disturbing it. And it has been ingrained in my fingers since Multics days. But for heavy duty work, I use sam, in Windows as well as Linux. Sam marries ed to screen editing much more cleanly than vi. It has recursive global commands and infinite undo. Like qed (whence came ed's syntax) and Larry's xvi it can work on several files (or even several areas in one file) at once. I would guess that a vi adept would miss having arrow keys as well as the mouse, but probably not much else. Sam offers one answer for my question about examples of taste reigning in featurism during the course of Unix evolution. Doug _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS@minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs --upas-dcmvklwhjxfyjnqbgcagbziwxw--