From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from gproxy6-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([67.222.39.168]) by pp; Mon Dec 1 17:25:36 EST 2014 Received: (qmail 3795 invoked by uid 0); 1 Dec 2014 22:24:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy6.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 2014 22:24:57 -0000 Received: from box718.bluehost.com ([66.147.244.218]) by cmgw3 with id NNQr1p00P4jSlzW01NQuQf; Mon, 01 Dec 2014 15:24:57 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=W++rC3mk c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=3oFetKmyNFvm8ZYjNK1Pvg==:117 a=3oFetKmyNFvm8ZYjNK1Pvg==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=mQ_yRmhShyAA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=1z6wL1VsAAAA:8 a=czz62RuaCIwA:10 a=A92cGCtB03wA:10 a=gTEKvLs8mQTdq-34sqIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=instaview.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:To:From:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID; bh=CFhMd3fcxJYtIzHDge3/CN+USFpgtXdbK8AncuAtqVk=; b=Rn3reiwYNs/fr5afXrFs5eTUAHBsrDe5sH/GwW86enQNC0/vs/44Jb2VjsgypCDIHGR/FhUicq8jWW6Mryj6fdgCmJWrizImxPBwDGJ+vJArSAr8D32sM80Zh+gXDdba; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45675 helo=box718.bluehost.com) by box718.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XvZOl-0004BO-3x for 9front@9front.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2014 15:24:51 -0700 Received: from 98.222.225.3 ([98.222.225.3]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user tony@instaview.com) by box718.bluehost.com with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 17:24:51 -0500 Message-ID: List-ID: <9front.9front.org> X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: virtualized module-aware WEB2.0 core replication In-Reply-To: <547BCB9A.8090301@ix.netcom.com> References: <547BCB9A.8090301@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 17:24:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [9front] Debian port of Plan 9 From: tony@instaview.com To: 9front@9front.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.23 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Identified-User: {:box718.bluehost.com:instavie:instaview.com} {sentby:program running on server} Ack... No. > Hi list, > > I'm still new to Plan 9. My current desktop is Debian, so I am looking > for way to combine both interests. > > How feasible would it be to do a Debian port of Plan 9, like the Debian > GNU/Hurd experimental port, and how suitable would 9front be as a > starting point? > > If this happens, I see 9front as an upstream source for Debian, not a > competing project. I'm looking at 9front because it looks like the most > active Plan 9 project at the moment. > > A Debian port would entail: > > - multiple architecture support > - porting the packaging system (dpkg/apt) > - porting all the apps > - adding the missing drivers > - following Debian policy and release schedule > - finding Debian developers who will sponsor and sustain the port > > I don't know anything about getting approval for such a project, but > if it happens I think there will be a lot of interest. Debian seems like > a natural fit because it is the only distro (that I know of) that > supports alternate OSs and kernels, and Plan 9 would be the first to > do both. The port could also be done unofficially, but it would have > less visibility and support. > > There are many porting issues. A large number of Debian apps use dbus, > so that might be a biggest obstacle to porting (this is a general > problem in Debian ports). Could 9p be used instead as a dbus > replacement? I don't know much about either protocol, but 9p seems like > a more professionally engineered solution. > > Unix APIs, POSIX and FHS are also porting issues to contend with, but I > am hoping the Plan 9 for User Space will alleviate some of those. For > graphics apps, could ports be done from one of the frame buffer > ports, like the Debian ARM port? I have more questions, but I'll stop > there. Thanks, > > Marty >