From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31115 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2022 07:18:38 -0000 Received: from 9front.inri.net (168.235.81.73) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 21 Jul 2022 07:18:38 -0000 Received: from sirjofri.de ([5.45.105.127]) by 9front; Thu Jul 21 03:17:06 -0400 2022 Received: from sirjofri.de ([95.90.217.83]) by sirjofri.de; Thu Jul 21 09:17:02 +0200 2022 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 07:16:59 +0000 (UTC) From: sirjofri To: 9front@9front.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <865yjrkznf.fsf@cmarib.ramside> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Correlation-ID: List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: converged transactional framework service-aware solution Subject: Re: [9front] Re: Death of user "mycroftiv" Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk 21.07.2022 08:39:58 Eli Cohen : > well, you're right. I still like you better than northernlights anyway > though, but not as much as I liked mycroftiv >> >> This person was kind enough to reach out and provide some context and >> information we didn't previously have.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Please stop bikeshedd= ing=20 >> their >> words and just be grateful for the information.=C2=A0 Try to value the >> honesty instead of this performative tone policing.=C2=A0 If you just ca= n't >> hold it in, go blog about it. I want to add that northernlights surely knew mycroftiv better than most=20 of us, at least, his real-life part. I only know of one person (on grid)=20 who had a phone call with him. So I can't say who he was in real life,=20 how he behaved, what he did. I only know his view he presented in chat,=20 as well as his online presence, which is only just a fragment of his=20 personality. A big part of this fragment will live on in our hearts and on our=20 servers, and who knows, maybe this fragment is part of what he wanted to=20 be? But that's also only speculation. I'm not the emotional guy myself, and I can't say that I'll miss him=20 (emotionally) or that it's sad (emotionally), because I'm just not that=20 person(1). But I can still understand all people who go through this as I= =20 had quite deep experiences with the deaths of people close to me. I hope we can live through this and support each other where needed. For the people who were close to him in real life and feel bad and=20 depressed because of his death, I just hope they're not alone and not=20 hated for it. I hope they can live on normally at some point. sirjofri, who wrote lots of walls of texts with mycroftiv on gridchat back when I=20 started using 9 for real. (1) of course it is sad when someone dies, and I'll miss him here and=20 there. I'll just not have many tears about it. Don't get me wrong. PS: I hope you can understand my English. In the thread there were some=20 passages I had to translate because I didn't understand them properly,=20 and it's a quite heavy topic.