From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id PAA28778; Wed, 2 Jun 2004 15:07:34 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA29525 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 2004 15:07:33 +0200 (MET DST) X-SPAM-Warning: Sending machine is listed in blackholes.five-ten-sg.com Received: from postfix3-2.free.fr (postfix3-2.free.fr [213.228.0.169]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i52D7WEV017026 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 2004 15:07:32 +0200 Received: from warp (lns-th2-5f-81-56-197-80.adsl.proxad.net [81.56.197.80]) by postfix3-2.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 66F9FC17F; Wed, 2 Jun 2004 15:07:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <003701c448a2$726303d0$ef01a8c0@warp> From: "Nicolas Cannasse" To: "Holger Schulz" , , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sim=E3o_Melo_de_Sousa?= References: <40A8A1F6.3090604@di.ubi.pt> <7DD53720-B492-11D8-86A1-000A95C6FE96@mathematik.uni-siegen.de> Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Teaching OCaml Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 15:06:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 40BDD114.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; cannasse:01 warplayer:01 caml-list:01 programmer's:01 cannasse:01 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 nicolas:01 nicolas:01 argument:03 object:03 perl:03 let:04 languages:06 java:07 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk [...] > Some argument are not on teaching OCaml but on teaching OCaml as the > first language. Our students learn Java as their first languages, I > don't think they learn to much on programming principles. And I think > object orientation is hard to understand in the first year. I personally think that OCaml should not be teached as first language. Just let the students "enjoy" Java and Perl for few years, and when they'll later eventually discover OCaml, after all that pain, they'll really be able to enjoy it. That's a kind of programmer's Graal : the quest for it is a teaching :) Best Regards, Nicolas Cannasse ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners