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From: "Andreas Rossberg" <AndreasRossberg@web.de>
To: "caml-list" <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Today's inflamatory opinion: exceptions are bad
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:51:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <004501c71c40$b52e8d00$15b2a8c0@wiko> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612091823020.24657@barrayar.nyct.net>

"Brian Hurt" <bhurt@spnz.org> wrote:
>
> For the former, returning a variant type ('a option if nothing else) is a 
> better idea, for (at least) two reasons.  One, the type system enforces 
> the requirement to actually handle the error, at the location the return 
> value of the function is desired.  Want the result?  Handle the errors.

I guess Joe Armstrong (of Erlang fame) would have to say a lot about how to 
deal with failure properly. According to him, and the seemingly successful 
Erlang philosophy (which is, "let it crash"), attempts to locally handle 
errors are exactly the wrong approach. See his very insightful thesis.

> My point here is this: Ocaml is not Java (a fact we should all be 
> gratefull for, IMHO).  Simply because Java and C++ do something, doesn't 
> mean that it's a good thing to do.

Now, ML had exceptions before C++ was even called C++, and one and a half 
decades before anybody ever heard of Java. In fact, Stroustrup says that C++ 
exceptions were inspired by ML (too bad he did not take more inspiration 
from there :) ). ML took the concept from CLU, IIRC, which was a language 
particularly designed to improve various aspects of large scale software 
engineering.

- Andreas


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-12-10  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-10  1:42 Brian Hurt
2006-12-10  2:40 ` [Caml-list] " skaller
2006-12-10  2:51 ` Martin Jambon
2006-12-10  3:35 ` Chris King
2006-12-10  6:32   ` Jon Harrop
2006-12-10 19:07     ` brogoff
2006-12-10 18:04   ` Richard Jones
2006-12-10 23:27     ` Chris King
2006-12-11 15:55       ` Richard Jones
2006-12-15 11:13         ` Frédéric Gava
2006-12-11 17:28     ` Mike Lin
2006-12-11 20:09       ` Richard Jones
2006-12-11 23:38   ` Olivier Andrieu
     [not found]   ` <C841DA73-83D4-4CDD-BF4A-EA803C6D6A08@vub.ac.be>
2006-12-23  4:23     ` Ocaml checked exceptions Chris King
2006-12-10  6:30 ` [Caml-list] Today's inflamatory opinion: exceptions are bad malc
2006-12-10  6:36   ` malc
2006-12-10  6:56 ` Jon Harrop
2006-12-10  9:51 ` Andreas Rossberg [this message]
2006-12-10 11:00   ` Tom
2006-12-10 11:25     ` Andreas Rossberg
2006-12-10 13:27   ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2006-12-10 19:15     ` Haoyang Wang
2006-12-10 21:43       ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2006-12-11 13:10       ` Diego Olivier FERNANDEZ PONS
2006-12-10 18:31   ` Serge Aleynikov

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