caml-list - the Caml user's mailing list
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Warp" <warplayer@free.fr>
To: "Andreas Rossberg" <rossberg@ps.uni-sb.de>
Cc: "OCaml" <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] More OCaml+windowing system questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:32:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <005901c19dd9$e7837260$9600a8c0@warp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3C4408E0.EB34C3B2@ps.uni-sb.de>

> > However, C and C++ are extremely portable, which is very
> > appealing to me.
>
> Sorry, I cannot resist commenting on that particular statement, because
> it still seems to be such a frighteningly common misconception.

And so can't I resist to comment your comment :)

> This statement confuses two issues: portability and availability. C
> certainly is available on pretty much every system. But this says
> nothing about portability of C code - C and C++ are definitely among the
> least portable languages in use today. There effectively is no
> non-trivial C program that is portable according to the language
> standard (ie. does not explore undefined/unspecified behaviour one way
> or the other - most times you are not even aware).

I think that all the features of the C/C++ languages ARE portable. Why
shouldn't they be ? All you have to do is to compile with the good compiler
( gcc for instance ). BUT then, you have to be aware of some things that are
not permitted ( like DWORD access on odd memory addresses on Solaris ) and
to use a portable API - like ACE, or OpenGL - to do "special" things. In
fact, the limits of portability C/C++ are in the choice of the API you make,
and in the fact you CAN write very-low-level code when you should use an
API.

Thus, there is a big difference between portabily ( source code can be
recompiled on another machine and will work fine ) and "super-portability"
 compiled code will work fine - if you got the 'launcher' ) : and that's one
of the reasons of Java's sucess

Warp

-------------------
Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs  FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/
To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr  Archives: http://caml.inria.fr


  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-15 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-15  9:40 Walter B. Rader
2002-01-15 10:24 ` Xavier Leroy
2002-01-15 10:48 ` Andreas Rossberg
2002-01-15 15:32   ` Warp [this message]
2002-01-15 16:26     ` Wolfgang Lux

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to='005901c19dd9$e7837260$9600a8c0@warp' \
    --to=warplayer@free.fr \
    --cc=caml-list@inria.fr \
    --cc=rossberg@ps.uni-sb.de \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).