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From: Andreas Rossberg <rossberg@mpi-sws.org>
To: Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de>
Cc: Jeff Meister <nanaki@gmail.com>,
	david.baelde@ens-lyon.org, Chris Yocum <cyocum@gmail.com>,
	caml-list List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Ocaml and the Fragile Base Class Problem
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 11:31:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00776888-5A29-4575-BAAC-A27B3F2A8FE3@mpi-sws.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1314486489.3496.179.camel@thinkpad>

On Aug 28, 2011, at 01.08 h, Gerd Stolpmann wrote:
>
> Let me point out one final thing. Information hiding is simply not a
> core concept of OO - which is in the first place a specific way of
> structuring the program (e.g. group data and algorithms together),  
> with
> an integrated method of adapting object types (subtyping), and giving
> control of parts of your algorithm to the user of your class.

Not sure why you would say that. I'd argue that information hiding  
("encapsulation") definitively is very central to OO -- an object  
collects a set of methods that operate on some hidden shared state  
(not necessarily mutable). And Ocaml fully supports that.

What is not at the core of OO is the kind of ad-hoc softening of full  
encapsulation introduced by access modes like "protected" or "friend".  
And for better or worse, that's what Ocaml does not support directly  
-- everything is either public or (instance) private, unless you  
encode more sophisticated policies through the module system.

/Andreas


  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-28  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-27 10:53 Chris Yocum
2011-08-27 11:24 ` Jacques Garrigue
2011-08-27 15:06 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-08-27 16:59   ` David Baelde
2011-08-27 19:37     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-08-27 20:21       ` Jeff Meister
2011-08-27 23:08         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-08-28  9:31           ` Andreas Rossberg [this message]
2011-08-28 10:04             ` Guillaume Yziquel
2011-08-28 10:11             ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-08-28 10:50               ` Andreas Rossberg
2011-08-29  3:35           ` Jacques Garrigue
2011-08-29 11:19             ` Chris Yocum
2011-08-29 11:47               ` Guillaume Yziquel
2011-08-29 12:03                 ` Chris Yocum
2011-08-31 21:33             ` Alain Frisch
2011-08-31 23:39               ` Jacques Garrigue
2011-08-28 17:58       ` Julien Signoles

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