From: "Jon Harrop" <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
To: "'Alain Frisch'" <alain@frisch.fr>
Cc: <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: RE: [Caml-list] OCaml vs Ada and/or GUI options
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 04:05:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <00d001ceb0f7$3eb62c20$bc228460$@ffconsultancy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5231D505.2020909@frisch.fr>
More the tooling and documentation than the language although there is some
overlap. The OCaml language is good for expressing GUI and graphical
programs. Polymorphic variants are particularly useful.
I'd say the main challenges are:
1. API Exploration: OCamlBrowser is a great little tool but it is much
slower to use to explore a big API (like a GUI toolkit's API) than
Intellisense.
2. Libraries: OCaml has mature bindings to GTK but GTK has very limited
support for modern GUI features. For example, vector graphics are ubiquitous
in modern GUIs and GTK punts this to Cairo which comparable to using the
Acorn DRAW file format from BBC BASIC in 1987 (26 years ago) but without the
high-level memory safety that BBC BASIC offered.
3. Interoperability: both GTK and Qt punt more advanced (e.g. 3D) vector
graphics to OpenGL but OCaml doesn't have any up-to-date OpenGL bindings.
LablGL is mature but I don't think its bindings to GLU were ever finished
and, of course, it only supports OpenGL circa the turn of the millenium.
Ultimately, the problem is that interoperability is hard with OCaml.
4. Samples: There are relatively few OCaml GUI samples out there.
With tablets reinventing user interface designs, the time is ripe for a new
GUI toolkit, e.g. written in OCaml using OpenGL ES 2.0...
Cheers,
Jon.
-----Original Message-----
From: Alain Frisch [mailto:alain@frisch.fr]
Sent: 12 September 2013 15:52
To: jon@ffconsultancy.com
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml vs Ada and/or GUI options
On 09/12/2013 04:40 PM, Jon Harrop wrote:
> OCaml is nowhere near
> having competitive support for basic features required for modern GUI
> programming
Hi Jon!
Could you more specific? Are you referring to language features?
-- Alain
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Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-10 21:09 Gour
2013-09-10 21:38 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-09-11 5:24 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 7:21 ` Kakadu
2013-09-11 8:21 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 8:14 ` Gour
2013-09-11 18:17 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 19:31 ` Gour
2013-09-11 19:53 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 20:41 ` Gour
2013-09-11 21:01 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 5:44 ` Gour
2013-09-12 6:31 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 5:36 ` Gour
2013-09-12 6:48 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 7:26 ` Gour
2013-09-11 20:06 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 20:48 ` Anthony Tavener
2013-09-11 21:04 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 14:40 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2013-09-12 14:51 ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-12 14:57 ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2013-09-12 15:04 ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-14 3:05 ` Jon Harrop [this message]
2013-09-14 7:10 ` Kakadu
2013-09-14 11:37 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-15 8:32 ` Kakadu
2013-09-14 23:51 ` Francois¡¡Charles Matthieu¡¡Berenger
2013-09-11 22:17 ` [Caml-list] " Richard W.M. Jones
2013-09-12 13:49 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2013-09-12 13:58 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-09-11 9:49 ` David MENTRE
2013-09-11 10:14 ` Kakadu
2013-09-11 15:21 ` David MENTRE
2013-09-12 1:31 ` Francois Berenger
2013-09-11 18:43 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 18:36 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 19:34 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 19:45 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 22:06 ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue
2013-09-12 3:25 ` Ivan Gotovchits
2013-09-12 6:41 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 11:49 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2013-09-11 19:17 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 22:03 ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue
2013-09-12 8:16 ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-11 12:26 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 18:48 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 13:22 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-09-11 13:33 ` Kakadu
2013-09-11 14:09 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-09-11 19:36 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 19:45 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-12 12:55 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 18:57 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 19:01 ` Rudi Grinberg
2013-09-11 19:15 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 8:10 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 1:00 ` [Caml-list] " Francois Berenger
2013-09-11 5:07 ` rixed
2013-09-11 8:26 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 9:23 ` rixed
2013-09-11 12:54 ` Leo White
2013-09-11 12:59 ` Gour
2013-09-11 19:06 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 8:16 ` Gour
2013-09-11 9:00 ` Francois Berenger
2013-09-11 19:19 ` Gour
2013-11-17 20:12 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 7:38 ` Gabriel Kerneis
2013-09-11 8:20 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 11:42 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2013-09-18 11:42 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-18 12:24 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2013-09-20 4:47 ` Gour
2013-09-19 8:11 ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-19 8:30 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-09-19 8:47 ` Andreas Rossberg
2013-09-20 4:51 ` Gour
2013-09-20 12:04 ` Gerd Stolpmann
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