From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66E2BBAF for ; Sun, 16 May 2010 22:31:53 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkUEAOPy70tKfVI0jmdsb2JhbACSA4EUimMIFQEBAQESChoirDUBBY0LAQSFEA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,242,1272837600"; d="scan'208";a="50687280" Received: from mail-ww0-f52.google.com ([74.125.82.52]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 16 May 2010 22:31:53 +0200 Received: by wwb24 with SMTP id 24so2744342wwb.39 for ; Sun, 16 May 2010 13:31:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:organization:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=QNg0rL+1GUPAK4YBuBn8v7XxjyOsmog2lOekOYIzpLk=; b=PBDqKg0QYOvPsdTZ7LCrejzqtEi5UcA53k1OXcokNVCsii/dFZ+LnPxrVd/rSdA/PG A2h6Wbf0tOiwxQZoaXiJ2Ij8DV4F0kQPQdfvQwpnS+K8o+8OVt3pvhxwlY47IKEbgsVi GN3lfANxBTYJUNoX5W4X3RIO6qQNjsA4NqWWY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:organization:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; b=xjBstOZKp22preA9kimj2GC/JRWNonX5pBjjfLsFxZ/5atqeAChYAvPBfB/1uZXBRo 1ACzhBAOAyhEqXpJkBLwtseaP0L+ybvUlm7nt0/v2Bn+O8ZJTDHGMiFNJW8KXwYQG60E HJnUY1R4y0Oxxjk7LYOmGG+bgFlk2QPPdYh9g= Received: by 10.216.166.8 with SMTP id f8mr2533236wel.182.1274041912715; Sun, 16 May 2010 13:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WinEight (87.114.183.77.plusnet.thn-ag1.dyn.plus.net [87.114.183.77]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l46sm1457063wed.22.2010.05.16.13.31.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 16 May 2010 13:31:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jon Harrop To: References: <951508.20587.qm@web58708.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <201005061233.07551.peng.zang@gmail.com> <07b101caf08b$3e5022c0$baf06840$@com> <088201caf1ce$b5060cb0$1f122610$@com> <20100512151137.26894ywcpv71ixvk@imp.ovh.net> <012601caf351$e9a362e0$bcea28a0$@com> <44A730DD-54EB-4A1C-BD1A-6E9EFB31B5A2@x9c.fr> In-Reply-To: <44A730DD-54EB-4A1C-BD1A-6E9EFB31B5A2@x9c.fr> Subject: RE: [Caml-list] about OcamIL Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 21:31:31 +0100 Organization: Flying Frog Consultancy Message-ID: <01f001caf536$c923b4c0$5b6b1e40$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcrzW8/1yO5RRUOCThmB01Ytk8s7iQB1fNag Content-Language: en-gb X-Spam: no; 0.00; bigloo:01 bigloo:01 afaict:01 cheers:01 2.0:98 wrote:01 caml-list:01 generics:01 slower:02 types:05 xavier:06 xavier:06 ecrit:06 context:06 benchmarks:07 Xavier Clerc: > Le 14 mai 2010 =E0 12:40, Jon Harrop a =E9crit : > > Xavier Clerc wrote: > >> Limiting myself to the JVM... > >> Moreover, at least Scala and Bigloo deliver excellent performances. > > > > I have benchmarks where the JVM is well over 10x slower than .NET. = So > > I do not regard any JVM-based language as "high performance". >=20 > Quite ironically, by scratching the surface, one would discover that > both quoted projects can also target .NET (not tested that though). Does Bigloo.NET support value types? Does Scala.NET use .NET (2.0) = generics? Not AFAICT. Name dropping them in the context of "high performance" = language implementations is more than a little bit silly... Cheers, Jon.