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From: "Jon Harrop" <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
To: "'Richard W.M. Jones'" <rich@annexia.org>
Cc: "'Gour'" <gour@atmarama.net>, <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: RE: [Caml-list] OCaml vs Ada and/or GUI options
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:49:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <05a701ceafbe$e7c53070$b74f9150$@ffconsultancy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130911221737.GB23943@annexia.org>

Richard Jones wrote:
> Then someone wants to enter text in Chinese, and someone else needs to use
their speech reader, and so on.

How is Chinese text a problem? 

If cross-platform speech reading is critically important then maybe GTK is
the way to go.

The main application I tried to develop in this way had very tame GUI
requirements: a GL context and load/save dialogs. That proved too hard for
me using OCaml in 2005. Today, we're revisiting it with a view to porting it
to Windows, Android and iOS. The Windows port of the core turned out to be
easy and has been in our F# for Visualization product for years. Having
played with Xamarin Studio it looks like Android and iOS ports will be easy
too. In each case, I'd write the non-GL GUI code using the native GUI
toolkit rather than trying to be cross platform.

Cheers,
Jon.

-----Original Message-----
From: caml-list-request@inria.fr [mailto:caml-list-request@inria.fr] On
Behalf Of Richard W.M. Jones
Sent: 11 September 2013 23:18
To: Jon Harrop
Cc: 'Gour'; caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: OCaml vs Ada and/or GUI options

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 09:06:05PM +0100, Jon Harrop wrote:
> My advice would be to forget about using OCaml's FFI to interop with 
> Linux' GUI libraries and focus instead on writing a new GUI library 
> from scratch in OCaml using OpenGL.
>
> Objectively, OCaml is extremely good for GUI programming. You've 
> already got libraries to load TrueType fonts and tessellate/rasterize 
> them. OpenGL makes it easy to render anything with excellent 
> performance. LablGL even makes picking (i.e. mouse clicks) easy. The 
> result would be cross platform.

Hmm.  Then someone wants to enter text in Chinese, and someone else needs to
use their speech reader, and so on.  Good luck reimplementing the whole of
Gtk.

Rich.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-12 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-10 21:09 Gour
2013-09-10 21:38 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-09-11  5:24   ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11  7:21     ` Kakadu
2013-09-11  8:21       ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11  8:14     ` Gour
2013-09-11 18:17       ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 19:31         ` Gour
2013-09-11 19:53           ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 20:41             ` Gour
2013-09-11 21:01               ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12  5:44                 ` Gour
2013-09-12  6:31                   ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12  5:36             ` Gour
2013-09-12  6:48               ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12  7:26                 ` Gour
2013-09-11 20:06         ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 20:48           ` Anthony Tavener
2013-09-11 21:04             ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 14:40             ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2013-09-12 14:51               ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-12 14:57                 ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2013-09-12 15:04                   ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-14  3:05                 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-14  7:10                   ` Kakadu
2013-09-14 11:37                     ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-15  8:32                       ` Kakadu
2013-09-14 23:51                   ` Francois¡¡Charles Matthieu¡¡Berenger
2013-09-11 22:17           ` [Caml-list] " Richard W.M. Jones
2013-09-12 13:49             ` Jon Harrop [this message]
2013-09-12 13:58               ` [Caml-list] " Richard W.M. Jones
2013-09-11  9:49     ` David MENTRE
2013-09-11 10:14       ` Kakadu
2013-09-11 15:21         ` David MENTRE
2013-09-12  1:31           ` Francois Berenger
2013-09-11 18:43         ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 18:36       ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 19:34         ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 19:45           ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 22:06             ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue
2013-09-12  3:25         ` Ivan Gotovchits
2013-09-12  6:41         ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 11:49           ` Gerd Stolpmann
2013-09-11 19:17       ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 22:03       ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue
2013-09-12  8:16         ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-11 12:26     ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 18:48       ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 13:22     ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-09-11 13:33       ` Kakadu
2013-09-11 14:09         ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-09-11 19:36           ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 19:45             ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-12 12:55               ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 18:57       ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 19:01         ` Rudi Grinberg
2013-09-11 19:15           ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11  8:10   ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11  1:00 ` [Caml-list] " Francois Berenger
2013-09-11  5:07   ` rixed
2013-09-11  8:26     ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11  9:23       ` rixed
2013-09-11 12:54         ` Leo White
2013-09-11 12:59           ` Gour
2013-09-11 19:06             ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11  8:16   ` Gour
2013-09-11  9:00     ` Francois Berenger
2013-09-11 19:19       ` Gour
2013-11-17 20:12       ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11  7:38 ` Gabriel Kerneis
2013-09-11  8:20   ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 11:42     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2013-09-18 11:42       ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-18 12:24         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2013-09-20  4:47           ` Gour
2013-09-19  8:11         ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-19  8:30           ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-09-19  8:47             ` Andreas Rossberg
2013-09-20  4:51           ` Gour
2013-09-20 12:04             ` Gerd Stolpmann

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