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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3D9CCE3A61975345CC46C03F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 09/07/2016 =C3=A0 00:18, Fabrice Le Fessant a =C3=A9crit : > I have no time to go on IRC, so I don't really care about it, but I think= that > we miss something in the middle between mailing-lists and IRC, whic= h is a > forum that would be hosted on ocaml.org (ocaml.org/forum ?). I use= d to go on > some BB forums at some point, I am pretty sure we could use so= mething like > that, or one of its more recent clones (but not a proprietar= y website). Such > forums are quite practical, as you can both monitor them= to answer questions > immediately (=C3=A0 la IRC) without filling your inb= ox, and still be able to come > from time to time and look at former discus= sions. If there has to be something other than IRC and the mailing list, I personn= ally quite like the idea of a forum. The *BB things sure have an old-school look&feel, but discourse [1] looks nice, for example, and I think the rust people use it for their user forum [2] (and it is free software). I personnaly would be happy to help newcomers on such a forum. I'm also not= so fond of IRC-like mediums: the density of useful and actual content is usual= ly quite low (because of the informal aspect of the discussions), and not structured or easily searchable. It's not because you have access to the 50= 0k+ lines of backlog that the informations there are actually usable. =E2=80=94 Arma=C3=ABl [1]: https://www.discourse.org/ [2]: https://users.rust-lang.org/ --------------3D9CCE3A61975345CC46C03F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Le 09/07/2016 à 00:18, Fabrice Le Fessant a écrit :
> I have no time to go on IRC, so I don't really care about it, but I think that > we miss something in the middle between mailing-lists and IRC, which is a > forum that would be hosted on ocaml.org (ocaml.org/forum ?). I used to go on > some BB forums at some point, I am pretty sure we could use something like > that, or one of its more recent clones (but not a proprietary website). Such > forums are quite practical, as you can both monitor them to answer questions > immediately (à la IRC) without filling your inbox, and still be able to come > from time to time and look at former discussions.

If there has to be something other than IRC and the mailing list, I personnally
quite like the idea of a forum. The *BB things sure have an old-school
look&feel, but discourse [1] looks nice, for example, and I think the rust
people use it for their user forum [2] (and it is free software).

I personnaly would be happy to help newcomers on such a forum. I'm also not so
fond of IRC-like mediums: the density of useful and actual content is usually
quite low (because of the informal aspect of the discussions), and not
structured or easily searchable. It's not because you have access to the 500k+
lines of backlog that the informations there are actually usable.

— Armaël

[1]: https://www.discourse.org/
[2]: https://users.rust-lang.org/
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