From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A9FC7EE80 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:44:17 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of jon@ffconsultancy.com) identity=pra; client-ip=84.93.230.244; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="jon@ffconsultancy.com"; x-sender="jon@ffconsultancy.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of jon@ffconsultancy.com) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=84.93.230.244; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="jon@ffconsultancy.com"; x-sender="jon@ffconsultancy.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@avasout03.plus.net) identity=helo; client-ip=84.93.230.244; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="jon@ffconsultancy.com"; x-sender="postmaster@avasout03.plus.net"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlADAD4fSlFUXeb0gWdsb2JhbABEswB6kS2BUhYOAQEWJiiCJAEBBQgCMDQXAQMCCREEAQEOGgcZIwkBCQgCBAESCwUCh3ADEwi4YwOJZY1ZgSsSBoM6A44siVOSbYFq X-IPAS-Result: AlADAD4fSlFUXeb0gWdsb2JhbABEswB6kS2BUhYOAQEWJiiCJAEBBQgCMDQXAQMCCREEAQEOGgcZIwkBCQgCBAESCwUCh3ADEwi4YwOJZY1ZgSsSBoM6A44siVOSbYFq X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,880,1355094000"; d="scan'208";a="7242749" Received: from avasout03.plus.net ([84.93.230.244]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 20 Mar 2013 21:43:57 +0100 Received: from XPS ([87.112.110.254]) by avasout03 with smtp id Dwju1l0045VNGGP01wjvqE; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:43:56 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Df3JXIRW c=1 sm=1 a=fP/72gr2kmGa62nm52o1XQ==:17 a=PcxEMZpPzg4A:10 a=Xub9RBUEA-sA:10 a=Kvk-SOs2Z7YA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=r2vSxAw-AAAA:8 a=fP-f-03R_oAA:10 a=ZOzjf2MOAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=8gzoFhPc0iJlSXNm4lYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=fP/72gr2kmGa62nm52o1XQ==:117 X-AUTH: jdh302:2500 Reply-To: From: "Jon Harrop" To: "'Chet Murthy'" , References: <878v5lca2c.fsf@li195-236.members.linode.com> <9813208.KJBpLPkkvX@groupon> In-Reply-To: <9813208.KJBpLPkkvX@groupon> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:44:04 -0000 Organization: Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd. Message-ID: <069c01ce25ab$a9cf3f10$fd6dbd30$@ffconsultancy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGbDIvrQFC0hqYsznfX8ZeLYj+sAAGro33jAwUx/+kB+r723Zjf3+bg Content-Language: en-gb Subject: RE: [Caml-list] Re: Haskell vs OCaml FWIW, I'd say that the differences between OCaml and Haskell are of academic interest (first-class modules vs type classes). The important thing is the shortcomings that both OCaml and Haskell share (high barrier to entry, poor interop, performance limitations, limited libraries, commerce unfriendly, ageing foundations). Cheers, Jon. -----Original Message----- From: caml-list-request@inria.fr [mailto:caml-list-request@inria.fr] On Behalf Of Chet Murthy Sent: 18 March 2013 18:05 To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: [Caml-list] Re: Haskell vs OCaml Geez, I don't want to fan the flames of any sort of war, but .... as long as this subject came up, I'd really like to find out if anybody has done decent-sized-system comparisons of ocaml and haskell for performance and footprint. I'm a long-time Caml (and before that SML) hacker, and (hopefully) fully appreciate the FP Nature, so it's not like I'm looking for an argument about which language is better, etc, etc. And I'm not looking for microbenchmarks, either. I'm looking for -significant- systems that have been implemented in both, and information about footprint and performance of those systems. Why am I looking? Because if you're a bigot about your favorite language, and -never- look for countervailing facts about the competition, you might miss out. Heck, that's how I became an Ocaml bigot lo' these many years. So .... anybody got anything? --chet-- -- Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management and archives: https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs