From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3522C7EE51 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 20:33:23 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of anil@recoil.org) identity=pra; client-ip=89.16.177.154; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="anil@recoil.org"; x-sender="anil@recoil.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of anil@recoil.org) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=89.16.177.154; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="anil@recoil.org"; x-sender="anil@recoil.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@dark.recoil.org) identity=helo; client-ip=89.16.177.154; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="anil@recoil.org"; x-sender="postmaster@dark.recoil.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8BAJV0XFFZELGanGdsb2JhbABDgz1BwAeBIw4BAQEBAQgLCQkUKIIfAQEFOj8QCxguVwYBEogUBAMFwD+OZjMHgl9hA4h6h3aFe4EfilSIQw X-IPAS-Result: Aq8BAJV0XFFZELGanGdsb2JhbABDgz1BwAeBIw4BAQEBAQgLCQkUKIIfAQEFOj8QCxguVwYBEogUBAMFwD+OZjMHgl9hA4h6h3aFe4EfilSIQw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,402,1363129200"; d="scan'208";a="9675822" Received: from recoil.dh.bytemark.co.uk (HELO dark.recoil.org) ([89.16.177.154]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with SMTP; 03 Apr 2013 20:33:22 +0200 Received: (qmail 27143 invoked by uid 634); 3 Apr 2013 18:33:21 -0000 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Check-By: dark.recoil.org Received: from visnet-186.csl.sri.com (HELO visnet-186.csl.sri.com) (130.107.98.186) (smtp-auth username remote@recoil.org, mechanism cram-md5) by dark.recoil.org (qpsmtpd/0.84) with ESMTPA; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 19:33:21 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) From: Anil Madhavapeddy In-Reply-To: <515C6EB7.7010109@ens-lyon.org> Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 11:33:17 -0700 Cc: Amir M Chaudhry , Malcolm Matalka , "caml-list@inria.fr users" , Gerd Stolpmann Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0D64637F-0E34-41C8-9097-7A54E640C602@recoil.org> References: <1365008078.10138.3@samsung> <515C6EB7.7010109@ens-lyon.org> To: Martin Jambon , "marius a. eriksen" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on dark.recoil.org Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OUD2013 part of CUFP? On 3 Apr 2013, at 11:02, Martin Jambon wrote: >=20 > "Spreading the word widely" doesn't happen like that - it's the core of t= he problem. >=20 > In thought the goal was to raise awareness among professional software de= velopers who might consider trying some more "functional" approaches to pro= gramming. > Pardon my cynicism, but this is different from a meeting whose goal is to= show academics that their pet language was used by that one person in that= big company and then pat each other on the back. Are you all in a bad mood today or something? That's quite the mischaracte= risation of CUFP. Let me sample some of the videos from the CUFP website (a= t http://cufp.org/videos) * Scala at Twitter http://cufp.org/videos/scaling-scala-twitter-marius-eriksen-twitter * Facebook Chat in Erlang http://cufp.org/videos/functional-programming-facebook * Freebase and Metaweb in OCaml (now part of Google) http://cufp.org/videos/functional-programming-freebase-warren-harris-metaweb * Scheme for games development in Uncharted 3 http://cufp.org/videos/functional-mzscheme-dsls-game-development * F# at Microsoft for biological computing http://cufp.org/videos/using-f-prove-stabilisation-biological-networks http://cufp.org/videos/f-embracing-functional-programming-visual-studio-201= 0-luke-hoban-mic * Big data at Nokia using Erlang/OCaml: http://cufp.org/videos/disco-using-erlang-implement-mapreduce And I haven't even mentioned our usual friends from Citrix or Jane Street: * http://cufp.org/videos/citrix-haskell-xenclient * http://cufp.org/videos/jane-street-status-report And many more, of varying size and impact: there's been an interesting evol= ution from the 'bedroom FP user' to large companies that use it without bli= nking an eye. All of this has been tracked by CUFP over the years, althoug= h we unfortunately don't have videos from the earliest ones.=20=20 Please do stop directing your ire at a workshop that has done its best to b= roaden the appeal of FP for nearly a decade now, and do start thinking abou= t getting involved in the (many) open-source events that are out there thes= e days. Anyone can propose talks at places like Strange Loop and OSCON, an= d your travel and registration is often covered by the event organisers. -anil=