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From: David Frese <dfrese@dfrese.de>
To: Vitaly Lugovsky <vsl@ontil.ihep.su>
Cc: Caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Q: safe language
Date: 30 Aug 2002 16:50:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1030719022.1831.32.camel@pc-6> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0208301746580.2776-100000@ontil.ihep.su>

On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 15:49, Vitaly Lugovsky wrote:
> On 30 Aug 2002, David Frese wrote:
> 
> > >  (cadr '(1))
> > 
> > This shows that Lisp is safe, because it results in an error, and does
> > not return some value from out of nowhere (or does it).
> 
>  No. In this place program may be expecting some structure, which can 
> contain NIL. There is no other way in lisp to define structures - so, any
> code accepting lists will accept any alien structure. Is is type safety? 

If you are refering to the fact, that the expression above returns NIL,
then yes, this is no type-safety, and a very bad thing - I did not know
that.

> No way! Dynamically typed languages can't be safe.

I don't think this is a problem of dynamic or static typing, but a mad
behaviour of Lisp.

BTW: I guess we're getting a little bit off-topic now.

David.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-08-30 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-30  1:36 SooHyoung Oh
2002-08-30  8:41 ` sebastien FURIC
2002-08-30 12:44 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2002-08-30 13:05   ` David Frese
2002-08-30 13:46     ` Oleg
2002-08-30 16:09       ` Yutaka OIWA
2002-08-30 13:49     ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2002-08-30 14:04       ` J Farrand
2002-08-30 14:26         ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2002-08-30 14:48           ` Nicolas Cannasse
2002-08-30 15:31             ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2002-08-30 14:55           ` Mike Lin
2002-08-30 14:58             ` Eric Newhuis
2002-08-30 16:03           ` Yutaka OIWA
2002-08-30 21:44           ` Oliver Bandel
2002-09-01  8:07         ` John Max Skaller
2002-08-30 14:50       ` David Frese [this message]
2002-08-30 15:38         ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2002-08-30 15:28     ` didier plaindoux
2002-08-30 14:41 ` Florian Hars
2002-08-30 14:42 ` Nicolas Cannasse

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