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From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Nicolas Cannasse <warplayer@free.fr>
Cc: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" <qrczak@knm.org.pl>,
	caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Function forward declaration?
Date: 07 Apr 2004 23:52:17 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1081345936.19232.579.camel@pelican> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <002901c41c65$b53e4c50$19b0e152@warp>

On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 16:01, Nicolas Cannasse wrote:
> > What would this code do?

> What about "compilation error : recursive calls in forward declaration" ?

That's the whole point of having
forward declarations though  .. :)

> And what would this code do ?
> 
> let f () = while true do () done

It blocks a thread. Not even marginally stupid,
a very common and correct construction at the heart
of every operating system, it even has a name "wait loop".

> IMHO, function forward
> declaration is such a thing : very useful in most of the cases, still
> theoricaly broken (as your example show), 

IMHO it isn't forward calling that is broken, 
but global variables.

> and this can be checked by the compiler.

How? *** 

What do you suggest if the compiler
is not sure if a variable is initialised or not?
Java bans, Felix allows, Ocaml forces the programmer
to hack.

*** This isn't a dumb question. Sophisticated algorithms
can chase down uninitialised values. The question is,
is it sensible in a language to have an error condition
be so elusive that a human can't determine whether
the error will be issued or not?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-04-07 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-06 12:14 Timo.Tapiola
2004-04-06 12:20 ` Andrew Birkett
2004-04-06 12:37 ` Remi Vanicat
2004-04-06 13:00   ` Issac Trotts
2004-04-06 12:53 ` Correnson Loïc
2004-04-06 15:14   ` skaller
2004-04-06 17:39   ` brogoff
2004-04-06 17:53     ` Richard Jones
2004-04-06 19:28       ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-04-06 22:37         ` Jon Harrop
2004-04-07  2:18         ` skaller
2004-04-07  6:01         ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-04-07  7:31           ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-04-07 16:40             ` brogoff
2004-04-07 13:52           ` skaller [this message]
2004-04-07 14:15             ` Richard Jones
2002-01-03 15:21               ` Issac Trotts
2004-04-07 15:51               ` skaller
2004-04-07 16:41                 ` Richard Jones
2004-04-07 17:31                   ` Remi Vanicat
2004-04-07 17:36                     ` Richard Jones
2004-04-07 17:54                       ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-04-07 19:27                     ` skaller
2004-04-07 20:24                       ` Christopher Dutchyn
2004-04-07 18:04                   ` Benjamin Geer
2004-04-07 19:21                   ` skaller
2004-04-07 16:52               ` Shawn Wagner
2004-04-07 17:26               ` Basile Starynkevitch
2004-04-07 17:46                 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-04-07 18:03                   ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-07 18:44                 ` Christopher Dutchyn
2004-04-07 14:24             ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-04-07 15:12               ` skaller
2004-04-06 12:58 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-04-06 17:26 ` Christopher Dutchyn

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