From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Vasili Galchin <vasiliocaml@yahoo.com>
Cc: skaller@users.sourceforge.net, Dustin Sallings <dustin@spy.net>,
Kenneth Knowles <kknowles@berkeley.edu>,
caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar (was Re: [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library)
Date: 08 Apr 2004 18:25:19 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1081412719.19232.914.camel@pelican> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040407230339.76481.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com>
On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 09:03, Vasili Galchin wrote:
> John,
>
> You misunderstood my point.
No I didn't :) YOu said at one point
"I'm an old man and I'd love to see a
decent language in the mainstream"
.. or words to that effect. Me too, both
parts!
The issue here is how to get the result we want.
I'd go for Ocaml 4 with the existing Ocaml team
remaining in full control of the compiler,
but relinquishing *totally* the standard library
to a public process.
The new library starts off EMPTY, and compatility
isn't allowed as an argument except as a tie breaker.
On the other hand accepted principles are valid arguments,
for example functions operating on a container type shall take
the container as the first argument.
There's no way this process would work without
the Ocaml team being an active part of it!
[And I'm going to vote for Ocamlgraph being included
first thing!]
--
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Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-09 17:30 [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library Vasili Galchin
2004-03-09 17:55 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-09 18:11 ` Shawn Wagner
2004-03-15 19:44 ` Eric Stokes
2004-03-16 5:32 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-17 15:52 ` Eric Stokes
2004-03-18 0:19 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-18 8:56 ` OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar (was Re: [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library) Matt Gushee
2004-03-18 10:31 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-18 11:22 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-03-18 11:18 ` Wolfgang Müller
2004-03-18 11:55 ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2004-03-18 12:42 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-03-18 14:12 ` Xavier Leroy
2004-03-18 17:18 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-03-18 17:56 ` Alex Baretta
2004-03-18 18:33 ` Markus Mottl
2004-03-19 10:58 ` [Caml-list] Structuring the Caml community Christophe TROESTLER
2004-03-19 18:29 ` Yamagata Yoriyuki
2004-03-18 23:44 ` [Caml-list] Structuring the Caml community (Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar) Alain.Frisch
2004-03-19 8:36 ` Oliver Bandel
2004-03-19 19:03 ` Eric Stokes
2004-03-19 22:34 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-03-19 22:58 ` Matthew O'Connor
2004-03-19 23:15 ` Eric Stokes
2004-03-19 23:23 ` Karl Zilles
2004-03-20 10:10 ` ocaml.org (was: Re: [Caml-list] Structuring the Caml community (Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar)) Richard Jones
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0403201143290.2678-100000@lcmpc4.epfl.ch>
2004-03-20 10:47 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-18 23:41 ` OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar (was Re: [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library) Gerd Stolpmann
2004-03-19 0:47 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-03-19 8:54 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-19 12:29 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-03-19 12:44 ` [Caml-list] Proposed community structure (was Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar) Benjamin Geer
2004-03-19 17:30 ` [Caml-list] " Gerd Stolpmann
2004-03-20 6:30 ` Matt Gushee
2004-03-20 6:49 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-20 13:19 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-03-20 19:03 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-20 11:23 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-03-20 16:46 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-03-20 13:07 ` [Caml-list] Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar Dmitry Bely
2004-03-20 15:55 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-03-20 20:09 ` brogoff
2004-03-18 12:55 ` Alex Baretta
2004-03-19 8:54 ` OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar (was Re: [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library) Sven Luther
2004-03-19 9:12 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-18 13:12 ` John Carr
2004-03-18 13:56 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-18 18:41 ` Oliver Bandel
2004-03-18 20:10 ` John Carr
2004-03-18 23:20 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-19 1:30 ` Jacques Garrigue
2004-03-19 5:10 ` skaller
2004-03-19 8:41 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 8:58 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-19 9:13 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 10:03 ` Alex Baretta
2004-03-19 10:17 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 11:49 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-03-19 12:20 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-03-19 12:31 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 12:34 ` Issac Trotts
2004-03-21 9:13 ` skaller
2004-03-21 20:05 ` Issac Trotts
[not found] ` <1079927683.3165.73.camel@pelican.wigram>
2004-03-22 6:51 ` Issac Trotts
2004-03-23 19:48 ` skaller
2004-03-23 22:16 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-04-03 6:36 ` Dustin Sallings
2004-04-03 7:43 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-05 7:50 ` Dustin Sallings
2004-04-06 4:20 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-04-06 7:24 ` skaller
2004-04-06 17:24 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-04-06 17:38 ` Kip Macy
2004-04-07 23:11 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-04-07 23:08 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-04-07 23:31 ` Dustin Sallings
2004-04-08 13:57 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-13 11:15 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-04-08 13:48 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-08 14:06 ` Richard Jones
2004-04-08 14:53 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-08 19:56 ` [Caml-list] Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar Christophe TROESTLER
2004-04-08 20:47 ` OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar (was Re: [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library) Evan Martin
2004-04-08 21:20 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-07 23:03 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-04-08 7:03 ` james woodyatt
2004-04-08 7:15 ` Stijn De Saeger
2004-04-08 8:25 ` skaller [this message]
2004-04-08 9:35 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-04-08 11:05 ` Florian Hars
2004-04-08 11:31 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-04-08 13:39 ` Jacques Garrigue
2004-04-08 12:33 ` Richard Jones
2004-03-19 12:17 ` Alex Baretta
2004-03-19 12:37 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 12:44 ` Issac Trotts
2004-03-18 23:31 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-03-19 1:08 ` Michael Vanier
2004-03-19 8:51 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 13:20 ` John Carr
2004-03-19 15:12 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-21 21:11 ` John Carr
2004-03-22 6:46 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 8:48 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-18 18:57 ` Shawn Wagner
2004-03-18 21:16 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-03-18 22:32 ` Fernando Alegre
2004-03-19 0:03 ` [Caml-list] Re: OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar Remi Vanicat
2004-03-19 8:50 ` [Caml-list] Demande clarification nomenclature ocaml* Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2004-03-19 9:49 ` [Caml-list] Suggestion (was: Demande clarification nomenclature ocaml*) Wolfgang Müller
2004-03-19 10:19 ` [Caml-list] Modules and namespaces Richard Jones
2004-03-19 10:42 ` Wolfgang Müller
2004-03-19 10:45 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 13:56 ` Fernando Alegre
2004-03-19 15:15 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-19 11:45 ` [Caml-list] Demande clarification nomenclature ocaml* Benjamin Geer
2004-03-20 6:12 ` OCaml's Cathedral & Bazaar (was Re: [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library) Matt Gushee
2004-03-20 11:29 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-03-20 6:23 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-20 6:23 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-09 17:59 ` [Caml-list] Completeness of "Unix" run-time library james woodyatt
2004-03-19 10:19 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-20 6:15 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-20 6:40 ` Sven Luther
2004-03-20 6:45 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-03-09 18:04 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
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