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From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Markus Mottl <markus@oefai.at>
Cc: Richard Jones <rich@annexia.org>, Ocaml <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] unix.chop_extension
Date: 27 May 2004 19:33:35 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1085650415.32106.357.camel@pelican.wigram> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040527074634.GA27994@fichte.ai.univie.ac.at>

On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 17:46, Markus Mottl wrote:
> On Thu, 27 May 2004, skaller wrote:
> > AFAIK: The C Pcre that it wraps does use global variables 
> > and so while the interface appears re-entrant
> > it isn't.
> 
> To prevent people from getting a false impression of PCRE as interfaced
> to OCaml: it _is_ safe. 

You are using the word 'safe' imprecisely.

Reentrant is specific. So is thread-safe.
Re-entrant + no shared data structures implies thread-safe.
Thread safe doesn't imply re-entrant. In particular,
re-entrant is a stronger condition in the sense that
it implies all callbacks including asynchronous invocations
from signal handlers will work: thread safe code may
deadlock here.

> The use of global variables by the C-library does not necessarily imply
> that the program is unsafe.  It all depends on their use, and in this
> case the global variables (e.g. pcre_callout) are initialized exactly
> once at startup time, i.e. before the user can access any functions.

If this is so, the globals are merely constants, and the code 
will be re-entrant after the initialisation is complete.

However my examination of the C Pcre at one time
showed this was NOT the case. Instead, certain 
options were stored in global variables on every
call, and that implies the code isn't re-entrant
and cannot ever be made so.

I may have been wrong, and perhaps I was right but
Pcre has changed: I last looked some years ago
whilst working on Vyper .. 

As Markkus comments use of imperative style is
not the issue here. A function can easily
modify variables and be re-entrant provided
the variables are (rooted) on the stack.

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-27  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-24 20:04 skaller
2004-05-24 22:01 ` skaller
2004-05-25  8:46 ` Alex Baretta
2004-05-25  9:35   ` skaller
2004-05-25  9:46     ` Alain Frisch
2004-05-25 10:47       ` skaller
2004-05-25 11:51         ` sejourne kevin
2004-05-26 11:18           ` Florian Hars
2004-05-25 14:06         ` [Caml-list] Re: AAP (was: unix.chop_extension) Christophe TROESTLER
2004-05-25 13:37     ` [Caml-list] unix.chop_extension John Goerzen
2004-05-25 19:17     ` Richard Jones
2004-05-27  8:15   ` YANG Shouxun
2004-05-27  9:47     ` skaller
2004-05-26  9:05 ` Xavier Leroy
2004-05-26  9:35   ` Luca Pascali
2004-05-26  9:56   ` Remi Vanicat
2004-05-26 10:34   ` skaller
2004-05-26 13:27     ` Damien Doligez
2004-05-26 15:50       ` skaller
2004-05-26 16:04         ` Damien Doligez
2004-05-27  4:33           ` skaller
2004-05-27  4:56             ` John Goerzen
2004-05-28 16:44             ` Damien Doligez
2004-05-28 19:34               ` skaller
2004-05-29  8:37                 ` Damien Doligez
2004-05-29 10:01                   ` skaller
2004-05-29 16:02                     ` David Brown
2004-05-26 11:21   ` Alex Baretta
2004-05-26 16:43     ` Richard Jones
2004-05-27  4:48       ` skaller
2004-05-27  7:46         ` Markus Mottl
2004-05-27  9:33           ` skaller [this message]
2004-05-27 17:29       ` brogoff
2004-05-28 12:00         ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-05-28 16:43           ` brogoff
2004-05-28 17:49             ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-05-28 11:23       ` Alex Baretta

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