From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id IAA04037; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:40:52 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03943 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:40:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i9P6enR4012582 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:40:50 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.200] (ppp217-99.lns1.syd3.internode.on.net [203.122.217.99]) by smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i9P6ei4Y019045; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:10:45 +0930 (CST) Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Announce: Schoca-0.2.3 released From: skaller Reply-To: skaller@users.sourceforge.net To: Jacques Garrigue Cc: caml-list@davidb.org, caml-list In-Reply-To: <20041025.150855.13740131.garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp> References: <20041025025832.GA1582@old.davidb.org> <20041025.123834.26988978.garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp> <20041025050127.GA3599@old.davidb.org> <20041025.150855.13740131.garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1098686444.3075.236.camel@pelican.wigram> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-4) Date: 25 Oct 2004 16:40:44 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 417C9FF1.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 sourceforge:01 2004:99 jacques:01 gpl:01 insists:01 derivative:01 gpl:01 lgpl:01 argued:01 distinctions:01 learns:01 9660:01 glebe:01 compiler:01 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Mon, 2004-10-25 at 16:08, Jacques Garrigue wrote: > That's why I call it muddy. The FSF (who wrote the GPL) insists that > dynamic linking creates a derivative work, while in that case the > linking only occurs at execution. And this makes sense, because > otherwise the GPL would say nothing more than the LGPL. > Now, it could be argued that when you load code into the toplevel, > this is not the toplevel that is using the code (it has no dependency > on it). But this kind of argument can turn very subjective. Of course. As can any attempt for law, legislation, or authority to try to make distinctions between things that no sane programmer would distinguish. It's like trying to teach people the difference between a compiler, translator and interpreter. In the end the good teacher knows it's only a vague distinction to help thinking, and the good student soon learns the teacher was telling a white lie. They're just all programs. So too, trying to distinguish 'source code' from 'binary' and even say specifically what 'linking' means is all plainly power politics with no technical merit. Mathematically, it's all just coding. -- John Skaller, mailto:skaller@users.sf.net voice: 061-2-9660-0850, snail: PO BOX 401 Glebe NSW 2037 Australia Checkout the Felix programming language http://felix.sf.net ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners