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From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Alexander Bottema <Alexander.Bottema@mathworks.com>
Cc: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: RE: [Caml-list] Dynamic linking
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:14:47 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1128500087.16267.75.camel@rosella> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DB873318D1A41648BEAC4B5AAB63B3E10AC3B0EC@MESSAGE-AH.ad.mathworks.com>

On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 11:56 -0400, Alexander Bottema wrote:
> But the problem with a DLL is that you never now what address will be
> allocated for your executable. It can be located anywhere between 0 and
> 2^64-1. 

Not on current versions of Linux/x86_64. They only support 48 bit
code addresses (I think it is 48 bits), this is the so-called
'small model'.

> Thus, when a DLL calls another DLL a 64-bit call is potentially
> required. AMD64 supports global address tables that enable you to
> translate a 32-bit call into a 64-bit one (likewise with data access).
> If you compile a C file with gcc (-fPIC -S) you'll get code that looks
> like this:

I know ..but it has NOTHING to do with position independent code.

> For OCaml to work you need to emit instructions of type 'call foo@PLT'
> and 'movl xyzzy@GOT(%ebx)'. Currently, the OCaml does not do this for
> AMD64, which is the heart of the problem. If you think this is trivial
> to fix, please go head and do it; I'd be very happy.

This has nothing to do with making the *code* position independent.
It is to do with supporting elf/ld.so dynamic loading. This is
another issue entirely. 

Clearly, to access a symbol of an 'unknown' address,
you put the address into a known table slot instead,
when the library is loaded, and access indirectly.

In any case, this doesn't solve the problem, but it does
identify it correctly: the problem is to emit instructions
to bind to load-time linked libraries on Linux/Elf/ld.so 
platforms. You can be sure Windows -- for the same processor --
uses a different dynamic linkage model .. :)


-- 
John Skaller <skaller at users dot sf dot net>
Felix, successor to C++: http://felix.sf.net


  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-05  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-04 15:56 Alexander Bottema
2005-10-05  8:14 ` skaller [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-06-18  4:18 Jeffrey Loren Shaw
2007-06-15 16:03 Alain Frisch
2007-06-15 16:47 ` [Caml-list] " Joel Reymont
2007-06-15 16:52 ` Brian Hurt
2007-06-15 18:24   ` Alain Frisch
2007-06-15 18:59     ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-15 20:57       ` Alain Frisch
2007-06-15 22:38     ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-16  7:23       ` Alain Frisch
2007-06-16 17:33     ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-16 17:59       ` skaller
2007-06-16 20:13         ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-06-16 23:10         ` Philippe Wang
2007-06-15 22:37 ` skaller
2007-06-15 22:45   ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-06-15 22:58     ` skaller
2007-06-20 13:40 ` Alain Frisch
2007-06-24 11:35 ` Jon Harrop
2005-10-05 13:11 Alexander Bottema
2005-10-04 12:47 Alexander Bottema
2005-10-04 14:47 ` skaller
2005-09-28 12:44 Alexander Bottema
2005-09-26  3:09 Jonathan Roewen
2005-09-26  4:26 ` skaller
2005-09-26  5:14 ` Jacques Garrigue
2005-09-26  5:20   ` Jonathan Roewen
2005-09-28  9:05   ` Jacques Garrigue
2005-04-05 21:12 Emir Pasalic
2005-04-05 22:02 ` [Caml-list] " Igor Pechtchanski

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