From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD38D45F for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:53:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jA4LrdII016248 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:53:39 +0100 Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08387 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:53:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.176]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jA4Lrc4b003071 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:53:38 +0100 Received: from [212.227.126.160] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1EY9VA-0000hi-00; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 22:53:36 +0100 Received: from [84.58.136.238] (helo=gate.lan.gerd-stolpmann.de) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1EY9VA-0007x7-00; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 22:53:36 +0100 Received: from flakew.lan.gerd-stolpmann.de (flakew.lan.gerd-stolpmann.de [192.168.0.32]) by gate.lan.gerd-stolpmann.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9EDC05F; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:53:36 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Wikipedia From: Gerd Stolpmann To: Alex Goldman Cc: caml-list@inria.fr In-Reply-To: <9bbd27940511041305i5d33cb46y8eba0538a16acfd0@mail.gmail.com> References: <200511031726.59561.jon@ffconsultancy.com> <9bbd27940511041305i5d33cb46y8eba0538a16acfd0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 22:53:35 +0100 Message-Id: <1131141215.13512.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:a6865a839c0178d9aa0ce41878507ea2 X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 436BD863.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 436BD862.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 gerd:01 stolpmann:01 ocaml:01 gerd:01 stolpmann:01 viktoriastr:01 64293:01 darmstadt:01 smell:98 speechless:98 disseminate:98 wrote:01 telefon:02 objective:02 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 Am Freitag, den 04.11.2005, 13:05 -0800 schrieb Alex Goldman: > On 11/4/05, Thomas Fischbacher > wrote: > > > "most of my links" = "most of the links I set to my own pages". > > Wikipedia is not for self-promotion. At least, it *does* smell a bit > > strange if there are far more links to ffconsultancy on the Wikipeda > > page than to INRIA pages, don't you agree? > > The title of his user page alone will leave you speechless: Dr. Jon D. > Harrop BA MSci PhD. I've never met anyone who used both Dr. and Ph.D. > at the same time, and that includes very accomplished people. Come on, this is not fair. > Wikipedia has a policy against self-promotion and link spam. The > purpose of Wikipedia is to disseminate generally useful and objective > encyclopedic knowledge. Instead, Harrop uses it to make > self-aggrandizing claims and increase the Google ranking of and > traffic to his "company" to sell his book. This is not fair, too. The links to his own pages can nevertheless be objective. Actually, there are lots of scientific sites where very well-known authors also sell their books (by including links to Amazon etc.). The point is that Wikipedia has no idea what quality is, and falls back to a half-baked idea of "being objective = I must not advertise myself". Very poor. > Leave his spam all over Wikipedia, and soon anyone searching for > "OCaml" on Google will be directed to Harrop's unscientific BS. If his site has top-quality I don't have a problem with that. Gerd -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Gerd Stolpmann * Viktoriastr. 45 * 64293 Darmstadt * Germany gerd@gerd-stolpmann.de http://www.gerd-stolpmann.de Telefon: 06151/153855 Telefax: 06151/997714 ------------------------------------------------------------