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From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Nathaniel Gray <n8gray@gmail.com>
Cc: Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp>,
	caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: Select on channels (again)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:35:44 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1156314944.7834.46.camel@rosella.wigram> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aee06c9e0608222216r6fc72f84vd0a2dcdb04cc1ec8@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 22:16 -0700, Nathaniel Gray wrote:

> You're right -- *truly* non-blocking Marshal.from_channel requires
> more than select on channels, but it's often good enough to know if
> there's any data in the channel at all.  It's often acceptable to
> block long enough for the *rest* of a partial message to arrive but
> unacceptable to block indefinitely waiting for a new message to
> arrive.
> 
> In any case, Marshal.from_channel isn't the only reason one might want
> select on channels.  Is this something the dev team would be willing
> to accept as a patch?  It's a pretty trivial thing to implement.

The problem would be the semantics you indicate above.
You're going to get non-blocking behaviour when the
channels are quiet, but once there is some data,
you get blocking. 

It sounds hard to reason about the
properties of a system with these semantics:
you can already get the fd of a channel and select
on it, and have a similar problem (fd is quiet,
the buffer has data).

An alternative may be a pair of functions:

	bytes_of_in_channel: in_channel -> int
	bytes_of_out_channel: out_channel -> int

which tell how much data remains in the buffers,
you could use that in conjunction with Unix.select.

-- 
John Skaller <skaller at users dot sf dot net>
Felix, successor to C++: http://felix.sf.net


  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-23  6:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-15  0:46 Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-21 22:47 ` Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-22  0:42   ` [Caml-list] " Jonathan Roewen
2006-08-22  6:27     ` Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-22  6:41       ` Jonathan Roewen
2006-08-22  8:15         ` skaller
2006-08-22 21:15           ` Mike Lin
2006-08-23  5:12         ` Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-22  8:10       ` Olivier Andrieu
2006-08-23  5:27         ` Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-22  8:21       ` Jacques Garrigue
2006-08-23  5:16         ` Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-23  6:35           ` skaller [this message]
2006-08-23 19:31             ` Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-24  5:37               ` skaller
2006-08-24 19:06                 ` Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-25  1:55                   ` skaller
2006-08-25 22:19                     ` Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-23  8:29 Christoph Bauer
2006-08-23 17:35 ` Robert Roessler
2006-08-24  8:18 ` Robert Roessler

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