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From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Jacques Carette <carette@mcmaster.ca>
Cc: OCaml <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Patterns that evaluate
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:10:48 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1171548648.5669.18.camel@rosella.wigram> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45D462EE.5040100@mcmaster.ca>

On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 08:41 -0500, Jacques Carette wrote:
> skaller wrote:
> > It is a common wish, but has many problems IMHO.
> > First, it isn't very general. 
> Fallacious argument: OCaml has records, so there is no need for tuples 
> which are less general.  Yet it has them. 

It isn't an argument, it's a bullet point.

> The point is to balance generality with convenience.  

Yes, I agree.

> > patterns from expressions, would be extremely fragile:

> Sure.  But that is the normal semantics of the rest of OCaml you're 
> complaining about here! 

That's only partly true. In much of ocaml, you can use local
construction such as 

	let x = expr in expr

which names the variable 'x' to be used in 'expr'. There are
issues of hijacking of course. However with the pattern thing,
the issue is not *which* definition of x you're referring to,
but whether you're referring to one at all -- or actually
introducing one.

Current patterns have two name classes: pattern match variables
(lower case first letter) and constructors (upper case first
letter or backtick for polymorphic variants, or perhaps
a #term for them).

Adding a third category suggests a new lexical mark, to keep
the 'kind' of the symbol lexically determinate.

[Yes, I know Ocaml implicitly introduces variables not
only in patterns .. but also type variables]

-- 
John Skaller <skaller at users dot sf dot net>
Felix, successor to C++: http://felix.sf.net


  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-15 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-13 22:04 Jacques Carette
2007-02-13 22:07 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2007-02-14  0:10   ` Jacques Carette
2007-02-14 18:20   ` Edgar Friendly
2007-02-14 18:55     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-02-14 19:10       ` Denis Bueno
2007-02-14 19:11       ` Jacques Carette
2007-02-14 19:25         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-02-14 20:30           ` Edgar Friendly
2007-02-14 21:05       ` Jon Harrop
2007-02-14 21:33         ` Jacques Carette
2007-02-14 22:34   ` Martin Jambon
2007-02-15  0:26     ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-02-15  3:57       ` Jon Harrop
2007-02-15 22:43         ` Don Syme
2007-02-14 20:29 ` Nathaniel Gray
2007-02-14 21:10   ` Jacques Carette
2007-02-15  3:53     ` skaller
2007-02-15 13:41       ` Jacques Carette
2007-02-15 14:10         ` skaller [this message]
2007-02-15 20:43     ` Nathaniel Gray
2007-03-07 11:15       ` Oliver Bandel

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