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From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Richard Jones <rich@annexia.org>
Cc: Alain Frisch <Alain.Frisch@inria.fr>, caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Comparison of OCaml and MLton for numerics
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:02:30 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1180692150.4140.11.camel@rosella.wigram> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070601085340.GA29035@furbychan.cocan.org>

On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 09:53 +0100, Richard Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 06:09:27PM +1000, skaller wrote:
> > But still, the algorithm is crude and I found it necessary
> > to allow:
> > 
> > 	fun f ...           // maybe inline
> > 	inline fun f 	    // try REALLY HARD to inline
> > 	noinline fun f      // never inline
> 
> Actually it's more useful to control the inlining of function when
> they are applied, rather than when they are defined. 

I plan to implement that too.

> In more general terms, it was found that turning off inlining in the
> Linux kernel reduced the code size by 25%:

> I bet that actually improved performance too, but unfortunately in the
> article above they don't measure that.

Yes, I believe that. Smaller is usually faster.

However in Felix it isn't quite so simple. The 'general' method
of calling a function involves:

(a) call 'malloc()' to allocate heap store
(b) link the store into the garbage collector
(c) construct the object by binding its environment in
(d) clone the object so recursion works
(e) apply the object by passing its apply() method the arguments
(f) later on, garbage collect the object

ALL these steps are eliminated by inlining, and that also
provides further optimisation opportunities. In particular,
it typically reduces all non-recursive function call chains
to a flat sequence of primitive monomorphic mutators.

The resulting code is VERY fast. The code with all closures
isn't quite so fast :)

The compiler does other optimisations, these are just
the extreme cases. 

-- 
John Skaller <skaller at users dot sf dot net>
Felix, successor to C++: http://felix.sf.net


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-01 10:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-31  5:50 Yuanchen Zhu
2007-05-31  6:17 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2007-05-31  6:32   ` skaller
2007-05-31  7:31   ` Yuanchen Zhu
2007-05-31  9:08     ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-31  9:22       ` Yuanchen Zhu
2007-05-31 10:27         ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-31 21:30           ` Alain Frisch
2007-06-01  1:22             ` skaller
2007-06-01  1:36               ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2007-06-01  2:21                 ` skaller
2007-06-01  2:49                   ` Erick Tryzelaar
2007-06-01  3:05                     ` skaller
2007-06-01  5:30               ` Alain Frisch
2007-06-01  5:39                 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-01  6:36                   ` Yuanchen Zhu
2007-06-01  8:09                 ` skaller
2007-06-01  8:53                   ` Richard Jones
2007-06-01  8:59                     ` Richard Jones
2007-06-01  9:22                       ` Stephan Tolksdorf
2007-06-01  9:49                         ` Richard Jones
2007-06-01  9:32                       ` Stephan Tolksdorf
2007-06-01 10:02                     ` skaller [this message]
2007-06-01 11:29                 ` Yaron Minsky
2007-06-01 11:43                   ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2007-06-01 11:58                     ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-01 13:49                       ` Julien Signoles
2007-06-01 14:18                         ` Stephen Weeks
2007-06-01 14:43                           ` Julien Signoles
2007-06-01 14:57                           ` Brian Hurt
2007-06-01 15:40                             ` Alain Frisch
2007-06-01 15:58                               ` Brian Hurt
2007-06-01 16:25                                 ` Markus Mottl
2007-06-01 16:47                               ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-01 23:26                             ` skaller
2007-06-01 23:49                               ` Brian Hurt
2007-06-02  3:26                                 ` skaller
2007-06-01 12:40                     ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2007-06-01 13:56                       ` Julien Signoles
2007-06-01 11:49                   ` David MENTRE
2007-06-01 14:41                     ` skaller
2007-06-01 16:52                       ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-01 23:33                         ` skaller
2007-06-01 16:14                     ` Markus Mottl
2007-06-01 16:46                       ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-01 17:13                       ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-04 14:03                         ` Mike Furr
2007-06-04 14:39                           ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-04 15:33                             ` Mike Furr
2007-06-04 18:08                             ` skaller
     [not found]                               ` <9d3ec8300706041518y115d22bdsa120d4010261d841@mail.gmail.com>
2007-06-04 22:19                                 ` Fwd: " Till Varoquaux
2007-06-04 23:40                                   ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-05  2:24                                   ` skaller
2007-06-04 22:44                               ` Pierre Etchemaïté
2007-06-05  1:42                                 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-05 10:30                                   ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-10 12:10                           ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-10 12:58                             ` skaller
2007-06-01 14:15                 ` Stephen Weeks
2007-06-01 14:37                   ` Brian Hurt
2007-06-01 14:39                   ` Eric Cooper
2007-05-31  9:24       ` Yuanchen Zhu
2007-05-31 10:25       ` Loup Vaillant
2007-05-31 10:30         ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-31 12:12     ` skaller
2007-05-31  7:11 ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-05-31 15:15 ` Christophe Raffalli
2007-05-31 15:23   ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-31 15:35     ` Christophe Raffalli
     [not found]       ` <604682010705310923o5a1ee0eiee5ae697da9d3c60@mail.gmail.com>
2007-05-31 20:14         ` Stephen Weeks
2007-05-31 15:16 ` Christophe Raffalli

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