From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CCABC69 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:48:22 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAACWGLUfAbSoIh2dsb2JhbACOcQIBCAQGKYEP X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,368,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="5438136" Received: from discorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.38]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2007 17:48:22 +0100 Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by discorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lA4GmLwb011415 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:48:22 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAACWGLUfAbSoIh2dsb2JhbACOcQIBCAQGKYEP X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,368,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="5438134" Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de ([192.109.42.8]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2007 17:48:21 +0100 X-Envelope-From: oliver@first.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with ESMTP id lA4GmK4u008585 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:48:21 +0100 Received: (from www-data@localhost) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lA4GmKM2008580 for caml-list@inria.fr; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:48:20 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: einhorn.in-berlin.de: www-data set sender to oliver@first.in-berlin.de using -f Received: from dslb-088-073-071-197.pools.arcor-ip.net (dslb-088-073-071-197.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.73.71.197]) by webmail.in-berlin.de (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:48:20 +0100 Message-ID: <1194194900.472df7d444f7e@webmail.in-berlin.de> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:48:20 +0100 From: Oliver Bandel To: OCaml Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Smoke Vector Graphics: source code licenses for sale References: <200711041201.10255.jon@ffconsultancy.com> <1194188801.472de001905ce@webmail.in-berlin.de> <1194192721.25159.14.camel@rosella.wigram> In-Reply-To: <1194192721.25159.14.camel@rosella.wigram> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang_at_IN-Berlin_e.V. on 192.109.42.8 X-Miltered: at discorde with ID 472DF7D5.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; bandel:01 in-berlin:01 0100,:01 bandel:01 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 smoke:98 sourceforge:01 wrote:01 oliver:01 oliver:01 caml-list:01 graphics:02 seems:03 programming:03 Zitat von skaller : > > On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 16:06 +0100, Oliver Bandel wrote: > > Looks, like the Spam-Filter should be re-adjusted ;-) > > > > Ciao, > > Oliver > > Why is that? This list is for Ocaml stuff. No one said > any particular licence. No one said free, pretend free, > or downright encumbered by a stupid licence. > > In case you didn't realise .. programming is *primarily* a > commercial (for money) activity which is *primarily* intended > to support commercial or governmental activity (including > academic and semi-academic institutions). [...] if it is *primarily* this or that might be end in endless discussions. But it also is a commercial thing. I earn my money with programming too. But I doubt this list is the right area to post advertising-only posts. > > Lack of commercial support -- the kind Jon is offering -- > is one of the impediments to industry taking Ocaml seriously. > > It seems around 100 readers agree, if you can believe Jon's stats: > > "Our download statistics for last month show 94 hits for the 3.09 > version and 56 hits for the 3.10 version" [...] And what does theses hits show? What do they prove? Sorry, you mighht explain in more detail?! > > Lets hope Jon gets some sales .. he's one of the few commercial > support providers around. Yes, it's fine, if he makes money with OCaml. But nevrtheless I doubt, this list is the forum to make avertising-posts. We could end up in "Buy this new Vi**gra-stuff; our website is OCaml-driven!". Ciao, Oliver