From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EED4BBC1 for ; Sat, 3 May 2008 19:25:28 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmECAEI9HEhIDtydc2dsb2JhbACRbwEMAwQECQ8Fkz6FOA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,431,1204498800"; d="scan'208";a="25791751" Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.157]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 03 May 2008 19:25:09 +0200 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so1778038fge.43 for ; Sat, 03 May 2008 10:25:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer:sender; bh=oTZIgvxkQOSzJ/s0uv1UfeannRLoVAL0YsARpO+jOGE=; b=ZIY8qprhaFwP6WoucgreYHISLTZV0rqYHJCtLaqJidvV9jetL7AaixgPWGQaiJFDq1+UH/VgrmY1XMy9ZkCaiGasb1DGoQvHv/MB4RM2cLGSKgMdldSQ4a9s9bSRQuvpNy1OAr669IYP43IzA7lYqR0NOE6Yc18h0/Ui528Yats= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer:sender; b=YnBxjFAky1A2XSIfVUFwBAoMxOE0jXJCBfy3tvTbMI9q6G68jSv/RMaLfZmgwu+qqAQ+7smtCXwj6d27lkc6AgAVR+1P4JYQzdsacCS+AVMTs3NGar3vRIMQ81wkdWSShdPwEXS+iX77Kfgv6WFGGQcn7pbbpXDlrnT/6yfIxR8= Received: by 10.86.25.17 with SMTP id 17mr5939783fgy.65.1209835509085; Sat, 03 May 2008 10:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.37? ( [85.2.103.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l12sm3190094fgb.8.2008.05.03.10.25.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 03 May 2008 10:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <11C1D47B-42E2-4F2F-A769-7E87F961E84A@erratique.ch> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Daniel_B=FCnzli?= To: caml-list caml-list In-Reply-To: <20080503154222.GA17729@aquarium.takhisis.invalid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Core has landed Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 19:24:51 +0200 References: <1209764381.8680.38.camel@nyc-qws-018.delacy.com> <1209771655.2934.25.camel@sobolev> <891bd3390805021651v677be0ddu58a53ccbbffc411a@mail.gmail.com> <20080503082241.GC30935@annexia.org> <20080503090807.GA31936@annexia.org> <1209806329.6406.2.camel@Blefuscu> <20080503095010.GA14401@aquarium.takhisis.invalid> <521FF813-8539-45E8-813C-CD9EC6679848@erratique.ch> <20080503154222.GA17729@aquarium.takhisis.invalid> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Sender: =?UTF-8?B?RGFuaWVsIELDvG56bGk=?= X-Spam: no; 0.00; bunzli:01 buenzli:01 zacchiroli:01 0200,:01 bunzli:01 wrote:01 caml-list:01 modules:02 module:03 raise:03 limitations:04 daniel:04 daniel:04 intimately:04 separately:05 Le 3 mai 08 =E0 17:42, Stefano Zacchiroli a =E9crit : > On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 12:27:19PM +0200, Daniel B=FCnzli wrote: >> Again, creating a developer-oriented module distribution/installation >> mechanism would allow to easily get all these modules separately and > > Then go and create on. That's the basic foundation of a do-ocracy. Look, I have already stated on this list that I will not create such a =20= system - I will certainly contribute again to the community but not =20 under this form. And hey, there are some here with a lot more =20 expertise in package management systems than I have... Besides, if some are interested in improving the situation (for which =20= I'm very grateful) why shouldn't I raise criticism on what they do ? =20 Especially given that the batteries included path was already followed =20= once and failed. I think your initial question intimately shows the limitations of =20 batteries included, what remains outside batteries included will still =20= be "hard" (in the sense harder than it should be) to publish and use =20 and batteries cannot include everything. Hence my comments about =20 solving the problem at another level. Best, Daniel