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From: "Nicolas Pouillard" <nicolas.pouillard@gmail.com>
To: Michael Ekstrand <michael+ocaml@elehack.net>
Cc: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: [OSR] Ports-like package management system
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:03:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1201715301-sup-2182@ausone.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871w7zgtpn.fsf@jehiel.elehack.net>

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Excerpts from Michael Ekstrand's message of Wed Jan 30 17:32:20 +0100 2008:
> Sylvain Le Gall <sylvain@le-gall.net> writes:
> > Using a simple wget/rsync (you can redevelop it in OCaml) is far
> > more simple than to use a VCS.
> 
> Hear, hear.
> 
> I think that it's somewhat strange to incorporate the source for all
> packages into one massive VCS, and it looks like that's what's been
> proposed.
> 
> Forgive me if I'm rehashing things that have already been brought up,
> but I think that some kind of hybrid thing is good, and that Sylvain
> has some excellent points.  For the general case of package
> management, you need 2 things, metadata and source, and those two
> should probably not be managed together.  The Ports-like systems all
> seem to do this well - you have a tree of metadata (usually managed
> via some VCS [FreeBSD uses Perforce and CVS], but easily distributed
> via rsync to end users).  Metadata references tarballs.  I don't see a
> whole lot of merit for hooking into upstream VCS for the general case,
> as most users will probably want to use released tarballs of
> everything except the few modules they're working on.

That's  what  I  have  in  mind,  but I think that Berke had the whole tree of
sources idea in mind.

But  what's  happen  when  you  want  to  improve  on  some  external package.
Generally  ports  like  systems  have  a  directory  where  they store patches
against  upstream. This kind of system is perhaps not the best one when you've
made a non trivial change on the upstream package.

However  you  can  point  the  URL  field  of the control file to your locally
hacked version of the upstream package.

Example, instead of:

$ cd dev-ml/libfoo
# make the patch
$ diff -u ... ... > files/libfoo-4.5_with_feature_bar.patch
# create a new control file, for this new version
$ cp libfoo-4.5.opkg libfoo-4.5_with_feature_bar.opkg
# add the patch to the list of patches in the .opkg

Rather do:

$ cd dev-ml/libfoo
$ cp libfoo-4.5.opkg libfoo-4.5_with_feature_bar.opkg
# replace the URL field in libfoo-4.5_with_feature_bar.opk
# by URL: http://myhost.net/darcs/repos/libfoo@with_feature

-- 
Nicolas Pouillard aka Ertai

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-30 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-29 10:56 Berke Durak
2008-01-29 11:12 ` [Caml-list] " David Teller
2008-01-29 13:11 ` Yaron Minsky
2008-01-29 14:04   ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-29 17:35   ` Berke Durak
2008-01-29 18:02     ` Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-29 18:10     ` Paul Pelzl
2008-01-29 22:26     ` Paolo Donadeo
2008-01-30  1:55       ` Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-29 22:46     ` Paolo Donadeo
2008-01-29 13:47 ` Yaron Minsky
2008-01-29 14:04   ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-29 16:00 ` Alain Frisch
2008-01-30  6:58   ` Yaron Minsky
2008-01-30  8:56     ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-29 17:56 ` Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-29 18:17   ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-29 19:13     ` Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-30  8:49       ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-30 11:15         ` Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-30 11:52           ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-29 18:47 ` Hezekiah M. Carty
2008-01-30  9:06 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30  9:39   ` [Caml-list] " Berke Durak
2008-01-30  9:53     ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 10:50       ` [Caml-list] " Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-30 11:15         ` Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-30 11:54           ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-30 13:58             ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 14:08               ` [Caml-list] " Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-30 11:15       ` Berke Durak
2008-01-30 11:47         ` Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-30 13:55           ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 13:54         ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 14:24           ` [Caml-list] " Berke Durak
2008-01-30 14:35             ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 19:48             ` [Caml-list] " Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-30 18:12           ` Vlad Skvortsov
2008-01-30 16:32       ` Michael Ekstrand
2008-01-30 16:44         ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 18:03         ` Nicolas Pouillard [this message]
2008-01-30 19:45         ` [Caml-list] " Olivier Andrieu
2008-01-30 19:53           ` Vlad Skvortsov
2008-01-30 10:45     ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30  9:51   ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2008-01-30 10:18     ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 10:43       ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2008-01-30 12:00         ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-30 13:25           ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-30 14:06             ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-30 12:37   ` Pietro Abate
2008-01-30 13:26     ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-01-30 14:07     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2008-01-30 13:37       ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-01-30 15:12         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2008-01-31  9:02           ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-02-01 15:03             ` Gerd Stolpmann
2008-02-03 20:21               ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-02-04  3:40                 ` Matthew Hannigan
2008-02-04 18:42               ` Nathaniel Gray
2008-01-30 17:42       ` David Allsopp
2008-01-30 14:13     ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 20:22       ` [Caml-list] " Bünzli Daniel
2008-02-08 22:24       ` N. Owen Gunden
2008-01-30 15:15     ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-30 12:37 ` [Caml-list] " Berke Durak
2008-02-13  8:45 ` David Teller
2008-02-13 10:02   ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-02-13 10:48     ` [Caml-list] " Berke Durak
2008-02-13 13:51       ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-02-13 14:10       ` [Caml-list] " Richard Jones
2008-02-13 14:22         ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-02-13 17:57           ` [Caml-list] " Richard Jones
2008-02-15  8:13       ` Maxence Guesdon
2008-02-15  9:47         ` Berke Durak
2008-02-15 10:24           ` Maxence Guesdon
2008-02-15 10:59             ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-02-15 15:45               ` Maxence Guesdon
2008-02-15 13:35         ` Ralph Douglass
2008-02-15 14:08           ` Christophe TROESTLER
2008-02-13 12:13     ` David Teller
2008-02-13 13:48       ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-02-13 13:58         ` [Caml-list] " David Teller
2008-02-13 14:20           ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-02-13 14:28             ` [Caml-list] " David Teller

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