From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544DEBBC1 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:48:29 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiwBAI9IEEjCpx6wiGdsb2JhbACRVAEBAQ8gmx8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,704,1199660400"; d="scan'208";a="11887589" Received: from smtpmin.univ-orleans.fr (HELO min.univ-orleans.fr) ([194.167.30.176]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 24 Apr 2008 17:48:28 +0200 Received: from smtps.univ-orleans.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by min.univ-orleans.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D4612B3F4 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:48:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.108] (APoitiers-256-1-82-157.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.11.21.157]) by smtps.univ-orleans.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3FF36E5B for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:48:30 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [OSR] Standard syntax extensions ? From: David Teller To: Caml Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:49:42 +0200 Message-Id: <1209052182.6180.35.camel@Blefuscu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: no; 0.00; syntax:01 univ-orleans:01 ocaml:01 spawned:01 syntax:01 diverges:01 ocamlfind:01 camlp:01 camlp:01 syntaxes:01 dependencies:01 cheers:01 univ-orleans:01 lifo:01 liquidations:98 Dear list, Now that the forge is up, it's time to (re)start thinking about the OSR and what we want the future of the OCaml standard distribution to look like. Other threads will be (re)spawned regarding various aspects of that distribution, but for now, I'd like to discuss which syntax extensions. Oh, and before this thread diverges again, let me underline that we're *not* discussing delivery mechanisms or ocamlfind or ocamlbuild or repositories or GODI or IDisposable or camlp4 vs. camlp5... We're also not discussing original vs. revised syntax vs. twt [yet], although if you consider that some extension would be much more useful if rendered compatible with one of these syntaxes, please mention it. Now, a few subjects I'd like to see covered: * which syntax extensions do you use so often that you consider they should be part of the language ? * which syntax extensions are very important to you but should not be included in the core language [yet] ? * which syntax extensions are good ideas and should go into one of the previous categories but miss the mark because of dependencies / cosmetic issues and/or incompatibilities with other extensions or with the latest camlp4 ? * what kind of syntactic sugar is absolutely missing from the language ? As this may come into play later, whenever you suggest an extension, don't hesitate to comment whether you believe whom this extension would serve: beginners ? power-users ? some more specific category ? Cheers, David -- David Teller Security of Distributed Systems http://www.univ-orleans.fr/lifo/Members/David.Teller Angry researcher: French Universities need reforms, but the LRU act brings liquidations.