From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,NO_REAL_NAME, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6806BBBAF for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:46:56 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMFAGOBikjAI/YN/2dsb2JhbACRU1qcCw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,255,1215381600"; d="scan'208";a="15478063" Received: from pepe.inescn.pt ([192.35.246.13]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 26 Jul 2008 10:46:55 +0200 Received: from localhost (pepe.inescn.pt [127.0.0.1]) by pepe.inescn.pt (8.13.8/8.13.8/5) with ESMTP id m6Q8knod004624; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:46:49 +0100 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at inescporto.pt Received: from pepe.inescn.pt ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pepe.inescn.pt [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id NFntfM618iIy; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:46:22 +0100 (WEST) Received: from localhost (ns.inescn.pt [192.35.246.1]) by pepe.inescn.pt (8.13.8/8.13.8/43) with ESMTP id m6Q8kJT2004614; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:46:19 +0100 Received: from 136.249.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt (136.249.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt [77.54.249.136]) by webmail.inescporto.pt (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:46:19 +0100 Message-ID: <1217061979.488ae45b452b9@webmail.inescporto.pt> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:46:19 +0100 From: hmf@inescporto.pt To: Jon Harrop Cc: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] New Ocaml Plug-in for NetBeans MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 77.54.249.136 X-Spam: no; 0.00; ocaml:01 ocaml:01 camlp:01 lablgtk:01 cameleon:01 cameleon:01 emacs:01 hmmm:01 plug-ins:01 plug-in:98 plug-in:98 blown:98 imho:01 wrote:01 wrote:01 Jon Harrop wrote: > On Wednesday 23 July 2008 09:50:03 adonis28850 wrote: >> thanks Hugo, i know there's a Eclipse plug-in, but i would like to get it >> on NetBeans,so if someone could help i will thanks! > > If I might stick my oar in: why don't the OCaml community write an IDE for > OCaml in OCaml using Camlp4 for parsing with throwback and LablGTK for the > GUI? > Because writing one that is usable and complete requires a *lot* of effort. Maybe the authors of cameleon (http://home.gna.org/cameleon/) could also comment on the amount of work and commitment that is required to build one of these things. > This has long since seemed like an obvious idea to me but everyone continues > to battle on with tools like Emacs and Eclipse that are (IMHO) horrendous. > Hmmm... if I recall correctly you mentioned one of the advantages of using F# is its IDE (Visual Studio?). In fact code-completion seemed to be one of the functionalities you pointed out as useful. Well, OcaIDE has this. And much more. I figure if you believe a full blown IDE for F# is advantageous, then it should also stand for Eclipse, Netbeans, or any other IDE. Mind you, I assume your "horrendous" may also have something to do with the plug-ins quality. I believe OcalIDE is quite usable at this point in time. So.. try it out. Join the forum and give you feedback. BTW, I am harping on this issue because I truly believe that a good IDE is an excellent medium for promoting the use of Ocaml. Rgrds, HF.