From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by walapai.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p43MrOJS025239 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 00:53:24 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4CAPiFwE3U4xEIkWdsb2JhbACEUaFPFAEBAQEJCwsHFCWIcqt3kRgCgSiDV4EBBIlWiVyKGg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,312,1301868000"; d="scan'208";a="107374055" Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.8]) by mail1-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 04 May 2011 00:53:22 +0200 Received: from office1.lan.sumadev.de (dslb-094-219-219-157.pools.arcor-ip.net [94.219.219.157]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MP3gp-1QNjHH2x0x-006JM7; Wed, 04 May 2011 00:50:36 +0200 Received: from [192.168.5.106] (dslb-094-219-219-157.pools.arcor-ip.net [94.219.219.157]) by office1.lan.sumadev.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 22F7A5F701; Wed, 4 May 2011 00:50:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Gerd Stolpmann To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9phane?= Glondu Cc: Mehdi Dogguy , caml-list@inria.fr In-Reply-To: <4DC0826C.6060101@glondu.net> References: <1304444979.3782.154.camel@thinkpad> <4DC06ADA.9030108@pps.jussieu.fr> <1304459989.3782.193.camel@thinkpad> <4DC0826C.6060101@glondu.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 00:50:32 +0200 Message-ID: <1304463032.3782.210.camel@thinkpad> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:V2EvNUgiaMaCJyqsFRs2d0WJFap8kVkB3kkQaRUZmwo wZllii6iTqVBF7zd408tRVCu/loX5EPt00YMXn+kOxG1FkyAXp /JosFfH5CRuHZBXfSxiaLAciqrQXiYrbhUmj8n/cNI+r1NDqxF +4QhmMvh9qYqzX/NQqNms1rdiKpeyo2Hb4B14ZQ8r7uw1SzdRw kWZ/UVisuWmSPSwWnQTvw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by walapai.inria.fr id p43MrOJS025239 Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Warning: Ubuntu 11.04 Vs OCaml 3.12.0 Am Mittwoch, den 04.05.2011, 00:32 +0200 schrieb Stéphane Glondu: > Le 03/05/2011 23:59, Gerd Stolpmann a écrit : > > Well, Ubuntu is another case, as we all know that Ubuntu does not care > > about the quality of their ocaml packages. > > [...] > > Debian is in the lucky situation that they provide both the environment > > for ocaml and ocaml. So yes, they can fix the problems they created in > > their own environment :-) - Ubuntu is already a different story, they > > provide binary packages without any QA process. > > [...] > > Regarding Ubuntu, maybe we should ask them to remove their ocaml > > packages from their distribution as long as they do not do QA. > > You sound like ocaml-related packages are totally broken in Ubuntu, > which is not true. They probably do more QA than GODI, even on > ocaml-related packages (e.g. frequent recompilations with new versions > of toolchain, early bug reporting when something breaks). But as you > pointed out, they have complete control over their OS... it would be > more difficult to do that for GODI. We have an autobuilder, but it is simply not possible to find this type of problem automatically without also controlling the OS. The autobuilder runs on a single OS and a single version of that only, and this is always behind the latest release. Also, for GODI pre-release QA is not as important as for a binary distro. > Sure, Ubuntu doesn't have a > dedicated ocaml maintainer, and copy their packages directly from Debian > and they should work most of the time (actually, I've never heard of > breakages that were specific to Ubuntu). > > BTW, the ocaml package shipped by Ubuntu 11.04 has been fixed (it's > still version 3.11.2, though). The original mail of this thread was > about an ocaml compiled from sources. Thanks for the clarification. In deed I understood this differently - as if Ubuntu shipped the broken ocaml. Gerd > > > Cheers, > > -- > Stéphane > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Gerd Stolpmann, Bad Nauheimer Str.3, 64289 Darmstadt,Germany gerd@gerd-stolpmann.de http://www.gerd-stolpmann.de Phone: +49-6151-153855 Fax: +49-6151-997714 ------------------------------------------------------------